More Obamacare fuckups

[Latrinsorm]

He got elected president people people are fucking morons. He was elected by the MTV Generation really, that thinks celebrity is more important then reality. It's funny though, but I have already been hearing people on the left say "What experience does Rubio even have? He hasn't even completed a term as Senator" Go figure. But if what you are saying is I could get elected president and turn the country into a different political system, say dictatorship, I think you are sadly mistaken. Our constitution allows limited change, with a 2/3rds majority. Which is generally the political ruling class. Example.. why don't we have term limits? Because those in power don't want them.

I don't think any of those words mean what you think they mean. If you would, let me go point by point:

1. You could absolutely turn the country into a de jure dictatorship. Although it does require a particular voting threshold, there is no limit to changing our Constitution. The main body of the text has been repeatedly altered by Amendments. This is why people can talk about Amending the Constitution to permit foreign-born citizens to run for President, for instance.

2. If you were elected President, you could absolutely turn the country into a de facto dictatorship. (You could even argue it already has been.) The trouble with looking at everything in black and white is that you lose any depth of vision and just go by labels. We are called a democratic republic, and yet in practice we are closer to some historical dictatorships than some historical republics.

3. We do have (some) term limits. If you want more and can convince people that it's a good idea, we will have more. If you can't convince people, it might not be the fault of a shadowy political elite or a vapid electorate. It might be your fault for not having good ideas. Sometimes you fail because you're bad, not because of a conspiracy. Again though, if you don't even try, who cares?

News flash: You are not in the ideological middle ground.

I disagree. I have (happily) voted for the man elected President in every election I have been eligible to vote in (2004-present). How would an extremist do that?

You thought he was serious in those "...and as a Republican..." posts?

I'm always serious, Methais. It is a fact that I am a Republican, and it says more about you people that this continues to be a point of contention.

[Warriorbird]

You thought he was serious in those "...and as a Republican..." posts?

I'm pretty sure he voted Republican before you were even politically active.

[Nieninque]

When the Affordable Care Act is not affordable I don't know how else you can characterize it other than an unmitigated disaster.

Surely that is the fault of the cuntbag employers who are deliberately setting the tariff too high for their staff?
Cunts

[~Rocktar~]

You totally seem balanced when you post like this.

The problem is jackass, I NEVER claim to be middle of the road or moderate. Unlike you and other self delusional mush heads, I don't make such retarded claims.

I am completely honest in saying I am fiscally conservative, not all that happy with the current crop of RINOs, seriously dislike the fanatic nutjobs and socially moderate. I actually believe the Republican party needs to come more toward the middle and get a divorce from the fanatic Religious Right. Then it could pick up more of the Regan Democrats and do more of what's right for America not push an outdated religious agenda for a middle eastern death cult.

[Tgo01]

Surely that is the fault of the cuntbag employers who are deliberately setting the tariff too high for their staff?
Cunts

Yes it is, but that was the point of this law right? To protect vulnerable citizens from the cunty employers?

[Warriorbird]

The problem is jackass, I NEVER claim to be middle of the road or moderate. Unlike you and other self delusional mush heads, I don't make such retarded claims.

I am completely honest in saying I am fiscally conservative, not all that happy with the current crop of RINOs, seriously dislike the fanatic nutjobs and socially moderate. I actually believe the Republican party needs to come more toward the middle and get a divorce from the fanatic Religious Right. Then it could pick up more of the Regan Democrats and do more of what's right for America not push an outdated religious agenda for a middle eastern death cult.

You're definitely seeming like you fit in with your peers and you're totally running for the middle too.

[Warriorbird]

Yes it is, but that was the point of this law right? To protect vulnerable citizens from the cunty employers?

No. The goal was to offer more coverage. You're buying into the Rocktar line that the Obama Administration is somehow against business or believing all the self aggrandizing douchebags who use this an excuse to fuck their employees and whine about it.

It's actually a huge boon to the soulless. It's sort of like Obama is the best President ever for the firearms industry.

[Tgo01]

No. The goal was to offer more coverage.

Yes...and if people don't get more coverage then the law has failed, yes?

[Thondalar]

No, Thondalar, what will happen is the free market will magically create a restauranteur who offers full time employment with benefits and therefore magically attracts the best workers and therefore magically makes the most. It's called economics.

I'm going to pretend like i'm oblivious to your jab at a free market economy, since what used to be a free market back when it was a good idea and actually worked hasn't existed in the United States since before either of us were born, and say that like most of your ilk you seem to live in a glorious world of sunshine and rainbows. Unfortunately, i'm not allowed the luxury of uneducated supposition. I live in the real world. I do business in modern America. I run a business that did 2 and a half million dollars in sales last year, as part of a larger business that did over 70 million dollars in sales last year, and would be WRECKED if we had to abide by Obamacare rules for full time employees. This isn't some political statement. This isn't my opinion. This is simple plus and minus. This is what's happening in the REAL WORLD.

Try it some time.

-Thond

[Latrinsorm]

I actually believe the Republican party needs to come more toward the middle

Like me!

I'm going to pretend like i'm oblivious to your jab at a free market economy, since what used to be a free market back when it was a good idea and actually worked hasn't existed in the United States since before either of us were born, and say that like most of your ilk you seem to live in a glorious world of sunshine and rainbows. Unfortunately, i'm not allowed the luxury of uneducated supposition. I live in the real world. I do business in modern America. I run a business that did 2 and a half million dollars in sales last year, as part of a larger business that did over 70 million dollars in sales last year, and would be WRECKED if we had to abide by Obamacare rules for full time employees. This isn't some political statement. This isn't my opinion. This is simple plus and minus. This is what's happening in the REAL WORLD.

Try it some time.

I have 303 Excel spreadsheets on this computer alone. If I say I'm a math man, I think you will agree. Show me your plus and minus, won't you?