questions for George RR Martin

[Warriorbird]

Really, that's all you got? You're an idiot, and that further demonstrates your lack of grasp of basic logic. I'm not explaining why this time, take a logic course.

Carry on with not wanting anything that bothers you to happen in fantasy. Suggesting what you did to crb (joking or not) (to an actually serious response) puts you well out of the camp of formal logic. You also purposefully responded to a point other than what I brought up and used insults. Hmm, wonder what those would be.

[Ker_Thwap]

Carry on with not wanting anything that bothers you to happen in fantasy. Suggesting what you did to crb (joking or not) (to an actually serious response) puts you well out of the camp of formal logic. You also purposefully responded to a point other than what I brought up and used insults. Hmm, wonder what those would be.

I will carry on doing exactly that, thank you for your permission. It's just too easy to screw with you. Outside the camp of formal logic? Is that some kind of logic system in your head that works only for you?

I expressed an opinion. You're the fucknut trying to disprove an opinion. CRB just brought up an interesting fact. I was indeed being snarky to him, I suspect he can handle it without your stellar defense.

[Warriorbird]

I will carry on doing exactly that, thank you for your permission. It's just too easy to screw with you. Outside the camp of formal logic? Is that some kind of logic system in your head that works only for you?

I expressed an opinion. You're the fucknut trying to disprove an opinion. CRB just brought up an interesting fact. I was indeed being snarky to him, I suspect he can handle it without your stellar defense.

So you insist on other people following formal logic but don't follow it yourself. Got it.

[Ker_Thwap]

No, you don't get it. I stated an opinion about kiddie porn, I got called a prude, I called the other person an un-prude, I got called a closet un-prude, it was all fine up until that point. You barged in with nonsensical statements, I called you on it, you keep responding with further nonsense.

I'm convinced you can't learn, therefore you can have the last word. I'm done with you.

[crb]

I will carry on doing exactly that, thank you for your permission. It's just too easy to screw with you. Outside the camp of formal logic? Is that some kind of logic system in your head that works only for you?

I expressed an opinion. You're the fucknut trying to disprove an opinion. CRB just brought up an interesting fact. I was indeed being snarky to him, I suspect he can handle it without your stellar defense.

Sorry, I didn't detect any snark, just irrationality. So I ignored it.

[TheEschaton]

Seriously, it's a historical fantasy novel which tells a story about things which are in line with historical fact. A pedophile is going to be a pedophile, whether he reads Game of Thrones or not.

You are being absolutely ridiculous and ad hominem attacking an author for not Disney-fying medieval realities.

[Kastrel]

I'd wouldn't call what happens in Game of Thrones pedophilia. By American legal standards, its very blatantly such, but Dany was a young adult, not a child, within the culture of the series. She wasn't prepubescent, she was just significantly younger. As you can see with a lot of the standards, such as Sansa's first period, they pretty consider menarche to represent adulthood in women. Joffrey was not much older than Sansa at all, and it was pretty much a given that very soon after to soon approaching wedding, they would be sleeping together.

Anything involving children significantly younger than that is portrayed as twisted even within the confines of the book, but 12+ was pretty openly accepted.

Besides . . . despite the show's representation of Dany and Drogo's wedding night, I thought it was very tasteful in the book. Drogo went out of his way to be respectful, and while the show's interpretation of his "No"s seem to be saying "No, don't cry", the book seemed to be implying he was asking "No?", in that he was giving her a choice. And she accepted. If there is one change in the show from the book, its that they made a tasteful and gentle scene into a borderline rape scene.

[Androidpk]

You are being absolutely ridiculous and ad hominem attacking an author for not Disney-fying medieval realities.

This. Do you feel the same way about authors who write about murders, suicides, crime, and other such stuff? You must abhor people like Stephen King. Think about all the people he has killed!

[Kastrel]

This. Do you feel the same way about authors who write about murders, suicides, crime, and other such stuff? You must abhor people like Stephen King. Think about all the people he has killed!

Not that I hold it against him, anyone who has an issue with underage sex should probably not read IT. If reading Game of Thrones makes you a pedophile, IT would make you a pedolord or something.

[Amber]

So, dinner was last night, but there were 200 people, rather than the 20 I expected. We had a tour of the new exhibit, complete with commentary from George about each of his works. No surprise, but a lot of his characters came to life due to roleplaying. Today he gave a lecture and HBO did a preview of season 3, episode 1. I so want to give a spoiler or two on that, but I won't.

It was fun meeting him. He's a very easy to relate to person. He personally made the dinner menu, based on foods that are in Westeras. Dinner looked and smelled amazing, but most of it I couldn't eat 'cause of the autoimmune thing. Food is an important part of his books and he wants people to salivate over the feasts in his books and gag in disgust when characters have to eat rotten foods and such.

His sex scenes are sort of the same way. He wants people to enjoy the enjoyable sex and to be repulsed and angered by rape and pedophilia. That's pretty much how he says he feels about everything he writes. He wants people to relate to his characters, to be angered when bad things happen to good people and to always be wondering what happens next.

I'll write more tomorrow, but this was really such an awesome experience.