Trump Indicted in Georgia

[Shaps]

https://www.axios.com/2020/09/16/rio...roperty-damage

"Exclusive: $1 billion-plus riot damage is most expensive in insurance history"

Dates Location Dollars 2020 dollars
May 26-June 8, 2020 20 states across U.S. $1-2b $1-2b

Now they'd have you believe it was "mostly peaceful"... "The protests that took place in 140 U.S. cities this spring were mostly peaceful, but the arson, vandalism and looting that did occur will result in at least $1 billion to $2 billion of paid insurance claims — eclipsing the record set in Los Angeles in 1992 after the acquittal of the police officers who brutalized Rodney King."

"Mostly peaceful" = Most expensive destruction of communities ever.

Don't worry about that part though... we're telling you it was "peaceful".

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN2360SZ

"Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis"

You can look up all the other donations and bailouts from Democrat leaders.

But again... YOU're the crazy one. YOU're the insane one. YOU're the one trying to overthrow the Government and YOU're the one who is trying to destroy the country.

[Methais]

https://www.axios.com/2020/09/16/rio...roperty-damage

"Exclusive: $1 billion-plus riot damage is most expensive in insurance history"

Dates Location Dollars 2020 dollars
May 26-June 8, 2020 20 states across U.S. $1-2b $1-2b

Now they'd have you believe it was "mostly peaceful"... "The protests that took place in 140 U.S. cities this spring were mostly peaceful, but the arson, vandalism and looting that did occur will result in at least $1 billion to $2 billion of paid insurance claims — eclipsing the record set in Los Angeles in 1992 after the acquittal of the police officers who brutalized Rodney King."

"Mostly peaceful" = Most expensive destruction of communities ever.

Don't worry about that part though... we're telling you it was "peaceful".

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN2360SZ

"Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis"

You can look up all the other donations and bailouts from Democrat leaders.

But again... YOU're the crazy one. YOU're the insane one. YOU're the one trying to overthrow the Government and YOU're the one who is trying to destroy the country.

[Suppressed Poet]

https://www.axios.com/2020/09/16/rio...roperty-damage

"Exclusive: $1 billion-plus riot damage is most expensive in insurance history"

Dates Location Dollars 2020 dollars
May 26-June 8, 2020 20 states across U.S. $1-2b $1-2b

Now they'd have you believe it was "mostly peaceful"... "The protests that took place in 140 U.S. cities this spring were mostly peaceful, but the arson, vandalism and looting that did occur will result in at least $1 billion to $2 billion of paid insurance claims — eclipsing the record set in Los Angeles in 1992 after the acquittal of the police officers who brutalized Rodney King."

"Mostly peaceful" = Most expensive destruction of communities ever.

Don't worry about that part though... we're telling you it was "peaceful".

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN2360SZ

"Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis"

You can look up all the other donations and bailouts from Democrat leaders.

But again... YOU're the crazy one. YOU're the insane one. YOU're the one trying to overthrow the Government and YOU're the one who is trying to destroy the country.

I feel your pain bro. We’re are neither crazy nor domestic terrorists for saying that organized violent riots are not welcome in this country. Fuck those rich men north of Richmond.

[time4fun]

Im not yet up to speed on the latest Georgia indictment, but I’ll focus on what you said here about January 6th for just a moment. This is false and disingenuous. All the exhaustive evidence we have seen thus far doesn’t paint this picture. The rioters were almost entirely unarmed. Trump didn’t say to the crowd “grab your rifles, break into the Capitol, and hold Mike Pence hostage.” He tweeted to tell the rioters to go home. The burden of proof is to directly connect Trump as legally responsible for the riot. What specific evidence (not hearsay and not far fetched circumstantial) do you think points Trump to organize a violent mob and send them to attack the Capitol in the manner of which you described?

So I do have to push back on this. Yes, most folks were unarmed. But there were armed members of that crowd, and Trump knew it.

Mace, stun guns, baseball bats, etc. Pipe bombs. There's also recorded police radio that they had spotted people with AK-15s and Glocks. People faced weapons charges from that day. Guns were allegedly confiscated. 100 police officers were injured and 5 people died.

And more to the point- not only was Trump repeatedly informed before the event that there was a high likelihood of violence, but he was also told during the event that people in the crowd were armed (which is why they were standing outside of the metal detectors). Trump said apparently said he didn't care because they weren't going to hurt him. He wanted the metal detectors removed so they would come closer to the stage. People who were there testified about this under oath.

He sent them to the Capitol building and told them that this was their last chance to save their country. They were there because of Trump, he organized an entire event to make them angry, and then he knowingly sent armed people to the Capitol. He literally told them to "Fight Like Hell". Did he tell them to bring weapons? No. Did he know they already had them? Yes.

“We fight like hell, and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore,” Trump said. “So we are going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue – I love Pennsylvania Avenue – and we are going to the Capitol.”

And to be clear, Trump waited 3 hours to tell people to go home. Multiple people have testified under oath that people were pleading with him the whole time to call it off. And he refused. Even when he did finally do it, he told him he loved them and that they were special people and repeated all the same lies and lines that got them worked up to begin with. i.e. He justified their actions.

And two hours later he tweeted this:

“These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!”

I'm not going to call you disingenuous because I don't think that's your goal at all, but I am going to say that you are missing A LOT of information.

[Suppressed Poet]

There's also recorded police radio that they had spotted people with AK-15s

I stopped reading after this line because you are full of shit, but please tell me more about these scary “AK-15s” that was recorded on police radio.

[~Rocktar~]

So I do have to push back on this. Yes, most folks were unarmed. But there were armed members of that crowd, and Trump knew it.

Mace, stun guns, baseball bats, etc. Pipe bombs. There's also recorded police radio that they had spotted people with AK-15s and Glocks. People faced weapons charges from that day. Guns were allegedly confiscated. 100 police officers were injured and 5 people died.

And more to the point- not only was Trump repeatedly informed before the event that there was a high likelihood of violence, but he was also told during the event that people in the crowd were armed (which is why they were standing outside of the metal detectors). Trump said apparently said he didn't care because they weren't going to hurt him. He wanted the metal detectors removed so they would come closer to the stage. People who were there testified about this under oath.

He sent them to the Capitol building and told them that this was their last chance to save their country. They were there because of Trump, he organized an entire event to make them angry, and then he knowingly sent armed people to the Capitol. He literally told them to "Fight Like Hell". Did he tell them to bring weapons? No. Did he know they already had them? Yes.



And to be clear, Trump waited 3 hours to tell people to go home. Multiple people have testified under oath that people were pleading with him the whole time to call it off. And he refused. Even when he did finally do it, he told him he loved them and that they were special people and repeated all the same lies and lines that got them worked up to begin with. i.e. He justified their actions.

And two hours later he tweeted this:


I'm not going to call you disingenuous because I don't think that's your goal at all, but I am going to say that you are missing A LOT of information.

You are just drowning in copium.

[Suppressed Poet]

So I do have to push back on this. Yes, most folks were unarmed. But there were armed members of that crowd, and Trump knew it.

Mace, stun guns, baseball bats, etc. Pipe bombs. There's also recorded police radio that they had spotted people with AK-15s and Glocks. People faced weapons charges from that day. Guns were allegedly confiscated. 100 police officers were injured and 5 people died.

And more to the point- not only was Trump repeatedly informed before the event that there was a high likelihood of violence, but he was also told during the event that people in the crowd were armed (which is why they were standing outside of the metal detectors). Trump said apparently said he didn't care because they weren't going to hurt him. He wanted the metal detectors removed so they would come closer to the stage. People who were there testified about this under oath.

He sent them to the Capitol building and told them that this was their last chance to save their country. They were there because of Trump, he organized an entire event to make them angry, and then he knowingly sent armed people to the Capitol. He literally told them to "Fight Like Hell". Did he tell them to bring weapons? No. Did he know they already had them? Yes.



And to be clear, Trump waited 3 hours to tell people to go home. Multiple people have testified under oath that people were pleading with him the whole time to call it off. And he refused. Even when he did finally do it, he told him he loved them and that they were special people and repeated all the same lies and lines that got them worked up to begin with. i.e. He justified their actions.

And two hours later he tweeted this:


I'm not going to call you disingenuous because I don't think that's your goal at all, but I am going to say that you are missing A LOT of information.

Ok, I did read the rest of it. Again Trump was under no legal obligation to tell the rioters to go home in any length of time, but he did. Thank you for not calling me disingenuous and indeed it is not my goal to be that way. It’s possible I’m missing information, but I’m giving my opinion based on the knowledge I have. I disagree with you, but thank you for the response and clarifying.

[time4fun]

https://www.axios.com/2020/09/16/rio...roperty-damage

"Exclusive: $1 billion-plus riot damage is most expensive in insurance history"

Dates Location Dollars 2020 dollars
May 26-June 8, 2020 20 states across U.S. $1-2b $1-2b

Now they'd have you believe it was "mostly peaceful"... "The protests that took place in 140 U.S. cities this spring were mostly peaceful, but the arson, vandalism and looting that did occur will result in at least $1 billion to $2 billion of paid insurance claims — eclipsing the record set in Los Angeles in 1992 after the acquittal of the police officers who brutalized Rodney King."

"Mostly peaceful" = Most expensive destruction of communities ever.

Don't worry about that part though... we're telling you it was "peaceful".

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN2360SZ

"Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis"

You can look up all the other donations and bailouts from Democrat leaders.

But again... YOU're the crazy one. YOU're the insane one. YOU're the one trying to overthrow the Government and YOU're the one who is trying to destroy the country.

I'm sorry, is the argument here that it's legally permissible for Trump and his people to access state voting equipment, download the records and then share them publicly...because people protested the killing of George Floyd in what became the largest protest movement in the history of the country?

Is it now legal for all sitting Presidents (maybe elected officials? All candidates?) to illegally breach and tamper with voting equipment and share voting records publicly? Is it legal now in general (for everyone) because of the George Floyd protests? Or is Trump the only one who gets that right? If so, why?

I'm genuinely curious here.

Same for directly asking Secretaries of State to change vote counts, convening fake elector slates who posed as real elector slates to change the Electoral College vote and sending an angry mob to disrupt the Electoral College count all for the purpose of undoing an election after all legal channels failed.

Moving forward, what are the specific circumstances where these things are legal and acceptable? Obviously you feel like they were legal and acceptable for Trump. Are you asking for a specific carve out for him? If not, if you're applying justice fairly, when does this carve out apply generally? Does Biden get to do these things if he loses the election?

[Suppressed Poet]

I'm sorry, is the argument here that it's legally permissible for Trump and his people to access state voting equipment, download the records and then share them publicly...because people protested the killing of George Floyd in what became the largest protest movement in the history of the country?

Is it now legal for all sitting Presidents (maybe elected officials? All candidates?) to illegally breach and tamper with voting equipment and share voting records publicly? Is it legal now in general (for everyone) because of the George Floyd protests? Or is Trump the only one who gets that right? If so, why?

I'm genuinely curious here.

Same for directly asking Secretaries of State to change vote counts, convening fake elector slates who posed as real elector slates to change the Electoral College vote and sending an angry mob to disrupt the Electoral College count all for the purpose of undoing an election after all legal channels failed.

Can you acknowledge that many of what you call George Floyd protests were riots? I called January 6th a riot and denounce that action of anything beyond legal peaceful protests. I won’t ask you to acknowledge that many leftist politicians encouraged and allegedly funded these violent riots, but calling them what they were would go a long way for PC relations.

[Neveragain]

.because people protested the killing of George Floyd in what became the largest protest movement in the history of the country?

Remind us again when George Floyd died?



I recall saying, on that very day, that the 2017 DC riots marked the end of the peaceful transfer of power.

Now crawl back to your hole.