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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    They have to prove that he was knowingly and willfully acting in a reckless manner.
    He pointed a loaded gun at another human being and pulled the trigger without doing the minimum amount of work to ensure the firearm wasn't loaded.

    How much more reckless can you get? Imagine if anyone other than a liberal Hollywood douchebag can start getting away with murder based on such flimsy logic?

    "Oh yeah, I just found a gun on the ground and my friend said it was safe so I pointed it at someone and fired it! Blame my friend who may or may not exist!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    He pointed a loaded gun at another human being and pulled the trigger without doing the minimum amount of work to ensure the firearm wasn't loaded.

    How much more reckless can you get? Imagine if anyone other than a liberal Hollywood douchebag can start getting away with murder based on such flimsy logic?

    "Oh yeah, I just found a gun on the ground and my friend said it was safe so I pointed it at someone and fired it! Blame my friend who may or may not exist!"
    He claims to not be aware it was loaded. It is a movie set with guns in it. I bet he has pointed a lot of firearms at other people and pulled the trigger while filming. Infact, I bet just about every actor that has acted has at one time or another. If he knew it was loaded and you could prove it, that is one thing. They obviously feel they cannot prove that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    He claims to not be aware it was loaded. It is a movie set with guns in it. I bet he has pointed a lot of firearms at other people and pulled the trigger while filming. Infact, I bet just about every actor that has acted has at one time or another. If he knew it was loaded and you could prove it, that is one thing. They obviously feel they cannot prove that.
    You don't have to prove that he knew it was loaded to prove manslaughter, if he knew the gun was loaded he would be charged with murder.

    Also from what I have read decent human beings who are actors are very careful when it comes to handling real firearms on set, they aren't just pointing guns at people for no reason and pulling the trigger. I've even read stories where if the shot calls for the actor to point the gun at the camera and pull the trigger that they won't have someone behind the camera for the shot just in case.

    But Alec Killer can just ignore all safety standards and point a gun at someone and pull the trigger and pin the entire blame on some idiot who just grabbed a gun and gave it to him.

    If people working on movie sets are smart from this day forward they won't hand an actor a gun ever again because apparently that person is going to jail while the actual killer walks away without even having to appear in court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    You don't have to prove that he knew it was loaded to prove manslaughter, if he knew the gun was loaded he would be charged with murder.

    Also from what I have read decent human beings who are actors are very careful when it comes to handling real firearms on set, they aren't just pointing guns at people for no reason and pulling the trigger. I've even read stories where if the shot calls for the actor to point the gun at the camera and pull the trigger that they won't have someone behind the camera for the shot just in case.

    But Alec Killer can just ignore all safety standards and point a gun at someone and pull the trigger and pin the entire blame on some idiot who just grabbed a gun and gave it to him.

    If people working on movie sets are smart from this day forward they won't hand an actor a gun ever again because apparently that person is going to jail while the actual killer walks away without even having to appear in court.
    Prosecutors woke up and realized they couldn't establish negligence or failure to exercise due care when the set hired a train expert and had documented safety protocols in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    You don't have to prove that he knew it was loaded to prove manslaughter, if he knew the gun was loaded he would be charged with murder.

    Also from what I have read decent human beings who are actors are very careful when it comes to handling real firearms on set, they aren't just pointing guns at people for no reason and pulling the trigger. I've even read stories where if the shot calls for the actor to point the gun at the camera and pull the trigger that they won't have someone behind the camera for the shot just in case.

    But Alec Killer can just ignore all safety standards and point a gun at someone and pull the trigger and pin the entire blame on some idiot who just grabbed a gun and gave it to him.

    If people working on movie sets are smart from this day forward they won't hand an actor a gun ever again because apparently that person is going to jail while the actual killer walks away without even having to appear in court.
    You can think up all you want. You obviously don't have any kind of education on the judicial system nore do you know the facts the prosecution knows. They have determined they cannot prove he is culpable BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. I bolded and underlined it for you, because that is the standard you have to get 12 people to agree on. While 12 TGOs might decide he is guilty without even a trial or evidence proceedings, 12 different people might not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    They have determined they cannot prove he is culpable BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
    Yeah I'm sure that's what actually happened here. It's just a huge coincidence that Alec Killer's defense thought that if they could get the lead prosecutor off the case that the person who took over would dismiss the case, and wouldn't you know it? That's exactly what happened. Almost as if justice isn't blind at all.

    Let me ask you a simple question: would you, under any circumstance, point a real gun at another human being and pull the trigger just because another person told you it was safe to do so?

    I already know your answer, your answer is "no."

    So my other question is: why are you willing to give Alec Killer a pass here for ignoring even the most basic of gun safety rules? Because he was on a movie set? Lame cop out.
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    The trigger was apparently malfunctioning and could fire with a very minimal amount of pressure. That is why it was dropped. They’d never be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. The armorer, however, would have been responsible for ensuring the weapon was safe. That person failed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    The trigger was apparently malfunctioning and could fire with a very minimal amount of pressure.
    First I'm hearing of this. All I ever heard was that the FBI tested the gun and said that Alec Killer 100% lied when he said all he did was pull the hammer back and never pulled the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Yeah I'm sure that's what actually happened here. It's just a huge coincidence that Alec Killer's defense thought that if they could get the lead prosecutor off the case that the person who took over would dismiss the case, and wouldn't you know it? That's exactly what happened. Almost as if justice isn't blind at all.

    Let me ask you a simple question: would you, under any circumstance, point a real gun at another human being and pull the trigger just because another person told you it was safe to do so?

    I already know your answer, your answer is "no."

    So my other question is: why are you willing to give Alec Killer a pass here for ignoring even the most basic of gun safety rules? Because he was on a movie set? Lame cop out.
    I don’t give him a pass, but our justice system isn’t perfect. I’d rather see a guilty man go free vs an innocent man be convicted. It’s undeniable money, fame, and power help when you are a defendant in a criminal trial in this country. Nothing should shock you after OJ.

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    So, I wonder if there could be a case of negligent homicide in there somewhere?
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