Taliban taking over Afghanistan

[Gelston]

Then why didn't Biden just cut deals with the Taliban so we could have evacuated our citizens in an orderly fashion and so we could take all of their natural resources?

Either way Biden comes out of this looking completely incompetent.

Shit maybe we should have just kept a military presence there if this is the alternative. I didn't realize just how badly Biden fucked this all up.

Because they probably already have deal getting ready to go with China and Russia? No one on these forums knows what kind of talks the Biden Admin has been having with the Taliban.

[Shaps]

Again, this is only sudden if you haven't been paying attention for the last 20 years. There was a fuckup somewhere between the guys manning the checkpoints and the guy setting policy, over several administrations. That needs to be investigated.

I really hope there is a release of e-mails to document how the decision making process played out for this. This needs to be a learning/teachable moment, to ensure 1. accountability and 2. how not to repeat the same mistakes in the future.

Again, I think we should have left the minute Osama was killed. We as a Nation could have said to the world - "we did what we came to do and punished those responsible" - and I think? that would have sat well with our Citizens and the World.

Ending it was always going to be rough, but why it devolved into the current situation of pure chaos... I agree with you, it should be examined.

[Tgo01]

Because they probably already have deal getting ready to go with China and Russia? No one on these forums knows what kind of talks the Biden Admin has been having with the Taliban.

The takeaway from this then is that Biden is so incompetent that he received absolutely nothing from the Taliban in any talks they may have had with them. They didn't even secure a deal where they wouldn't advance on Kabul until all Americans had been evacuated.

So many fuckups coming in on an hourly basis it's impossible to even keep up with it all anymore.

[Tgo01]

Democratic President Joe Biden said that there was no "consensus" in intelligence reports about how quickly Afghanistan would fall to Taliban forces as the U.S. withdrew its military troops.

"I think there was no consensus," Biden told ABC News' George Stephanopoulos. "You go back and look at the intelligence reports. They said that they're much more likely to be sometime by the end of the year."

So...wait...Biden formally acknowledges that the Taliban was likely to take over Afghanistan within 3-4 months after the US withdrew all of their troops and...he left civilians and embassy staff there anyways and didn't evacuate all of those people and THEN withdraw the military?

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

How is anyone in the world defending this man anymore? This guy is just a menace.

[Gelston]

The takeaway from this then is that Biden is so incompetent that he received absolutely nothing from the Taliban in any talks they may have had with them. They didn't even secure a deal where they wouldn't advance on Kabul until all Americans had been evacuated.

So many fuckups coming in on an hourly basis it's impossible to even keep up with it all anymore.

We don't know this. Why isn't the taliban just converging on the Airport? Why aren't they hitting it with rockets and small arms fire? There is a reason.

[Tgo01]

We don't know this. Why isn't the taliban just converging on the Airport? Why aren't they hitting it with rockets and small arms fire? There is a reason.

Because apparently Biden begged them to allow the US to control the airport until the end of the month so they made a deal with the Taliban. That's what I'm getting from everything I have read. If they don't make a new deal by the end of the month and we still have people who need to be evacuated I have a feeling the Taliban's patience would quickly wear thin.

[Solkern]

So US soldiers are just gonna chill at the airport until all Americans make their way there? I'm sure that's gonna go over smoothly with the Taliban.

I can see you lack reading comprehension. I quoted the point you made that I refuted. That it is indeed going over smoothly with the Taliban and they are allowing US citizens and other people with proper documents to make it to the airport.

[Gelston]

Because apparently Biden begged them to allow the US to control the airport until the end of the month so they made a deal with the Taliban. That's what I'm getting from everything I have read. If they don't make a new deal by the end of the month and we still have people who need to be evacuated I have a feeling the Taliban's patience would quickly wear thin.

Trump is the one that set up the withdrawal deal with the Taliban. Wouldn't he be the one that begged them?

[Solkern]

Can you give us some sources where "everyone" has said that President Biden "royally fucked" this up?

Or do you have a problem with English?

I understand you lack the ability to comprehend what a generalized embellished statement is, that was referencing the majority of people.
It’s ok, it must be the jet lag.

[Tgo01]

I can see you lack reading comprehension. I quoted the point you made that I refuted. That it is indeed going over smoothly with the Taliban and they are allowing US citizens and other people with proper documents to make it to the airport.

Oh wow, that was your point? Yeah well, the Pentagon has already come out and said they need to make a new deal with the Taliban if they want to stay there past the end of the month, so now, Biden was 100% wrong when he said we will simply stay there as long as needed. Do you ever tire of being wrong literally all of the time?