More Obamacare fuckups

[cwolff]

Would you like to reconsider that response? Perhaps after rereading the article?

Oh Terry. Terry, Terry, Terry. Oh. Oh!!!

"Some of the doctors said they wouldn't see her because she was too far along in her pregnancy — about 30 weeks."
Coverage is not a guarantee a given doctor will see you. They can have medical reasons not to.

"A few practices did take the HMO insurance, but they operated as a rotating clinic and couldn't guarantee she would see the same doctor every time."
She had the coverage she needed, just not the coverage she wanted.

Like I said (I think?), I so happened to have private insurance before Obamacare and the process of going down a list of doctors is familiar to me. I didn't bat 100.0000, and I'm white.

Latrin is trying to make the case that over 50% failure rate is normal in this type of thing and is basing this off of his own personal experiences and you don't think his failure rate has any importance in this discussion?

Latrin isn't talking about 50%. I'm not sure why you are. I do know that he's asking you to re-read your own article because you fail to comprehend it.

Edit: I know why you're talking 50% actually. You're trying to change the subject by starting an argument over something unrelated to your original post because you're unable to defend your idea with the source material.

I accept your apology

This is such a little cunt thing to say. What's wrong with you? Are you a 13 year old girl?

Trolling = stating something utterly asinine and unsubstantiated, with the implication of degrading a discussion into irrationality, which you habitually accomplish.

Disagreeing while explaining why I disagree or even just to disagree does not = trolling. You're taking things too personally and it's hurting your objectivity.

[Latrinsorm]

I thought I was trying to make the case that the couple had coverage (thus the insurance company was correct), just not the coverage they wanted (thus the couple was correct).

[Tgo01]

I thought I was trying to make the case that the couple had coverage (thus the insurance company was correct), just not the coverage they wanted (thus the couple was correct).

Didn't we just go over this a few posts back? :/

The couple said most companies flat out refused to accept their insurance; that isn't a case of the couple not having the insurance they wanted, that is them not having any coverage at all...at least with those specific doctors. You then went on to say that other doctors on the list accepted their insurance but it wasn't exactly what they wanted, I said maybe if most of the doctors didn't flat out refuse the insurance they would have had a better chance of getting exactly what they wanted, you then countered with a story from your past that expecting 100% of doctors given to you by your insurance company to accept their insurance is impossible. At that point yes, you are trying to say that their experiences are typical; otherwise I have no idea what the point of your anecdote is.

[cwolff]

Didn't we just go over this a few posts back? :/

The couple said most companies flat out refused to accept their insurance; that isn't a case of the couple not having the insurance they wanted, that is them not having any coverage at all...at least with those specific doctors. You then went on to say that other doctors on the list accepted their insurance but it wasn't exactly what they wanted, I said maybe if most of the doctors didn't flat out refuse the insurance they would have had a better chance of getting exactly what they wanted, you then countered with a story from your past that expecting 100% of doctors given to you by your insurance company to accept their insurance is impossible. At that point yes, you are trying to say that their experiences are typical; otherwise I have no idea what the point of your anecdote is.

The couple said three or four different things:

1. Rachel recalls two days in January when she sat down and called every doctor on the list of 28. According to her, most of the practices told her, in one way or another, that they didn't take the plan
2. She says there were other issues, too. Some of the doctors said they wouldn't see her because she was too far along in her pregnancy — about 30 weeks
3. A few practices did take the HMO insurance, but they operated as a rotating clinic and couldn't guarantee she would see the same doctor every time

Her husband says this: "We want to have our birth in a hospital."

Blue Cross Blue Shield says "... says most of the 28 obstetricians do take the HMO insurance."

The issue is not whether she was able to have her baby in a hospital. The issue is that your protagonists are saying different things and you are seizing on the only explanation that confirms your bias against ACA.

This ain't no riddle Tg. They bought insurance, got insurance, then quit paying for insurance. The remarkable thing is that they got insurance 30 weeks into a pregnancy. They were afforded the luxury of quitting insurance that prior to the PPACA would have been an impossibility.

NOTE: I bolded portions to make it a bit easier for you.

[Tgo01]

You bolded the part where I said "most" then specifically bolded the word "most" when directly quoting from the story and you think I'm having trouble rea...

No...wait! Almost got sucked in by the troll again. At least Latrin's trolling is entertaining. Can you juggle, cwolff? Or do backflips? Liven this shit up.

[cwolff]

You bolded the part where I said "most" then specifically bolded the word "most" when directly quoting from the story and you think I'm having trouble rea...

No...wait! Almost got sucked in by the troll again. At least Latrin's trolling is entertaining. Can you juggle, cwolff? Or do backflips? Liven this shit up.

She got insurance while 7 months pregnant, found a practice that would take her as a new client and admit her to the hospital for her birth. What's the fucking problem? Sounds like an Obamacare success story.

[waywardgs]

She got insurance while 7 months pregnant, found a practice that would take her as a new client and admit her to the hospital for her birth. What's the fucking problem? Sounds like an Obamacare success story.

I think Tg is ticked off that this couple couldn't just walk into a hospital, have their kid two doors down from where the king was born and not pay a thing, like in Denmark.

[Jarvan]

I think Tg is ticked off that this couple couldn't just walk into a hospital, have their kid two doors down from where the king was born and not pay a thing, like in Denmark.

Oddly enough, prior to Obamacare.. if she would have shown up at a hospital while having contractions.. she would have had her kids in the hospital. Insurance or not.

And technically, they could have gotten away without paying a thing. Still can actually.

[cwolff]

I think Tg is ticked off that this couple couldn't just walk into a hospital, have their kid two doors down from where the king was born and not pay a thing, like in Denmark.

Oh ya, Olaf-Care kicks ass! Wish we had that here but you know...obummer wouldn't allow it.

[Tgo01]

The standards for Obamacare sure are falling fast.

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor!"
"Obamacare will lower healthcare costs!"
"The Affordable Care Act will ensure everyone has access to quality health care!"

Now it's...

"Meh, pay 400 dollars a month and accept whatever fucking insurance they shove down your throat! AND LIKE IT, DAMMIT!"