State of the Union 2014

[cwolff]

I'm not joking at all actually. Yourself and certain others on here defend him to no end while redirecting any question actually posed at you. You are defending a president that received a broken system and instead of trying to fix it he keeps adding to the broken system. Obama is good for social works but as far as being a economic leader he is a joke. But you'll just redirect me to some link about how bad Bush was.

You're viewing this forum through Red colored glasses and maybe you're haven't been keeping up on the Politics folder. I don't often link back to Bush but I'll certainly point out his fuck ups if it's germain to the discussion.

I will defend Obama. I like the things he's done. I voted for him twice and I hope we elect a democrat in the next cycle. I'm a big fan of ACA and I want it to succeed then eventually be replaced by a single payer system. I'm pissed that the ACA rollout was such a fuck up. I'm glad we're out of Iraq. Glad that our economy is improving and I'm pleased with the way he handled Syria.

Conversly I'm disgusted with what passes for "conservatism" these days. The GOP's in utter disarray, their message is extreme and they still think they represent the "norm" or the center. All in all, Obama's doing a good job and the GOP has no real bones to pick. If they did they'd be longer on substance and shorter on Benghazi, 40+ votes to repeal ACA, this red herring about "imperialist president", Gov't shutdowns and the Tea Party. My posts will reflect these beliefs. Don't confuse that with slavish devotion.

Rarely is a direct question posted to me. Most are statements with a ? at the end followed by a challenge like "Then how do you answer that!" They are almost never directly related to the topic at hand and are typically just an ad hominem attack or a straw man argument. These do not deserve recognition much less a response.

If you have felt slighted by me not responding directly to honest questions that you've posed to me, then I apologize and will look for your posts more closely. If any of these oversights have been especially egregious feel free to PM me with the links so I can go back and make sure you get the answers you were looking for.

[Jarvan]

You're viewing this forum through Red colored glasses and maybe you're haven't been keeping up on the Politics folder. I don't often link back to Bush but I'll certainly point out his fuck ups if it's germain to the discussion.

I will defend Obama. I like the things he's done. I voted for him twice and I hope we elect a democrat in the next cycle. I'm a big fan of ACA and I want it to succeed then eventually be replaced by a single payer system. I'm pissed that the ACA rollout was such a fuck up. I'm glad we're out of Iraq. Glad that our economy is improving and I'm pleased with the way he handled Syria.

Conversly I'm disgusted with what passes for "conservatism" these days. The GOP's in utter disarray, their message is extreme and they still think they represent the "norm" or the center. All in all, Obama's doing a good job and the GOP has no real bones to pick. If they did they'd be longer on substance and shorter on Benghazi, 40+ votes to repeal ACA, this red herring about "imperialist president", Gov't shutdowns and the Tea Party. My posts will reflect these beliefs. Don't confuse that with slavish devotion.

Rarely is a direct question posted to me. Most are statements with a ? at the end followed by a challenge like "Then how do you answer that!" They are almost never directly related to the topic at hand and are typically just an ad hominem attack or a straw man argument. These do not deserve recognition much less a response.

If you have felt slighted by me not responding directly to honest questions that you've posed to me, then I apologize and will look for your posts more closely. If any of these oversights have been especially egregious feel free to PM me with the links so I can go back and make sure you get the answers you were looking for.

Maybe you should take off the Blue colored glasses then?

So.. questions you don't like are an attack, or a strawman argument. Got ya.


On a side note....

"The withdrawal of American military forces from Iraq began in June 2009 and was completed by December 2011, bringing an end to the Iraq War.

The withdrawal of American military forces from Iraq was a contentious issue in the United States for much of the 2000s. As the war progressed from its initial invasion phase in 2003 to a nearly decade-long occupation, American public opinion shifted towards favoring a troop withdrawal; in May 2007, 55% of Americans believed that the Iraq War was a mistake, and 51% of registered voters favored troop withdrawal.[8] In late April 2007 Congress passed a supplementary spending bill for Iraq that set a deadline for troop withdrawal but President Bush vetoed this bill soon afterwards.[9][10] All American military forces were mandated to withdraw from Iraqi territory by 31 December 2011 under the terms of a bilateral agreement signed in 2008 by President Bush. The last U.S. troops left Iraq on 18 December 2011.[1]"

Yep Iraq was ALL Obama. He also single-handedly won the war by himself, captured Hussein and tore down that statue.

[cwolff]

Maybe you should take off the Blue colored glasses then?

This isn't a tit for tat. There aren't always two legitimate sides to the debate. That's like giving equal time to the theory of intelligent design because the big bang is just a "theory" too.

Post legit questions and you'll get legit answers.

[Tgo01]

I wear purple colored glasses.

[Latrinsorm]

Maybe you should take off the Blue colored glasses then?

Bronco colors are orange and navy, actually.

[cwolff]

I wear purple colored glasses.

Are you back on your meds yet or still trying to order the new black and white furniture?

[Jarvan]

This isn't a tit for tat. There aren't always two legitimate sides to the debate. That's like giving equal time to the theory of intelligent design because the big bang is just a "theory" too.

Post legit questions and you'll get legit answers.

Nope, sorry, you fail.

If I was a republican, and looked at everything thru red colored glasses, and you are a dem and tell me I am wrong because of it. Then you are guilty of looking thru blue colored glasses. The fact that you think Obama is doing a great job proves it.

[Jarvan]

Bronco colors are orange and navy, actually.

Broncos suck.

That's why OJ didn't get away. Fucker should have used an Escape.

[Warriorbird]

Nope, sorry, you fail.

If I was a republican, and looked at everything thru red colored glasses, and you are a dem and tell me I am wrong because of it. Then you are guilty of looking thru blue colored glasses. The fact that you think Obama is doing a great job proves it.

You're in too deep. Even if he said something bipartisan you wouldn't be able to comprehend it and you'd just claim he didn't.

[cwolff]

Nope, sorry, you fail.

If I was a republican, and looked at everything thru red colored glasses, and you are a dem and tell me I am wrong because of it. Then you are guilty of looking thru blue colored glasses. The fact that you think Obama is doing a great job proves it.

That's what I'm talking about. Most responses are some sort of fallacy. Good example brother. Thanks for posting that.

Broncos suck.

That's why OJ didn't get away. Fucker should have used an Escape.

+1 to Jarvan. This made me laugh.