Dumb things conservatives say:

[Gelston]

Congresspeople should be drawn randomly from the general populace, like juries.

I'd actually like that for the House, keeping the Senate elected.

[Thondalar]

I'd actually like that for the House, keeping the Senate elected.

I'm down with that. As long as they have term limits. Say...1?

[Gelston]

I'm down with that. As long as they have term limits. Say...1?

I see the senate as being the senior guiding house, which I believe is the intent of it. I wouldn't mind them having a term limit of two terms of five years, so a decade total (If elected to a second term), since (at least in my view) you'd only be able to serve in the House for one four year term and then returned to your devices.

I don't think "career" politicians should exist, at least not on the Federal level though I'd argue that it shouldn't exist on any level. (I suppose four years House, ten years Senate, eight years President would be a career, but I'd be fine with someone taking that path.)

[Latrinsorm]

Congresspeople should be drawn randomly from the general populace, like juries.

I'm down with that. As long as they have term limits. Say...1?

It's called the Constitution, maybe you've heard of it? And it's perfect exactly the way it was written.

I don't think "career" politicians should exist, at least not on the Federal level though I'd argue that it shouldn't exist on any level. (I suppose four years House, ten years Senate, eight years President would be a career, but I'd be fine with someone taking that path.)

Thomas Jefferson, John Jay, John Adams...

But as you know, like any good libtard I have personally fished the keys to various Founders' graves from the Potomac so I could spit directly in their faces, so let's try objective facts instead. What are the percentages of corruption (accused, then convicted) relative to time served in the Congress?

[Gelston]

It's called the Constitution, maybe you've heard of it? And it's perfect exactly the way it was written.Thomas Jefferson, John Jay, John Adams...

But as you know, like any good libtard I have personally fished the keys to various Founders' graves from the Potomac so I could spit directly in their faces, so let's try objective facts instead. What are the percentages of corruption (accused, then convicted) relative to time served in the Congress?

You're interested, go ahead and find them.

[Back]

It's called the Constitution, maybe you've heard of it? And it's perfect exactly the way it was written.

Oh snap!

[Jarvan]

I see the senate as being the senior guiding house, which I believe is the intent of it. I wouldn't mind them having a term limit of two terms of five years, so a decade total (If elected to a second term), since (at least in my view) you'd only be able to serve in the House for one four year term and then returned to your devices.

I don't think "career" politicians should exist, at least not on the Federal level though I'd argue that it shouldn't exist on any level. (I suppose four years House, ten years Senate, eight years President would be a career, but I'd be fine with someone taking that path.)

The Senate was originally appointed by the state, not elected. They were supposed to be the.. go figure, Statesmen, the educated people that ensured the good of the STATE was looked out for. I personally think shit went bad when they changed it to voting for them. Previously, if a Senator went against the interests of a state, they would be pretty much instantly recalled. Now, they can switch parties mid term and there really isn't a damn thing that can be done.

[Gelston]

The Senate was originally appointed by the state, not elected. They were supposed to be the.. go figure, Statesmen, the educated people that ensured the good of the STATE was looked out for. I personally think shit went bad when they changed it to voting for them. Previously, if a Senator went against the interests of a state, they would be pretty much instantly recalled. Now, they can switch parties mid term and there really isn't a damn thing that can be done.

Yeah, if only it had stayed that way, but it didn't. I can't see the manner in which our esteemed members of Congress are selected, nor their terms, being changed anytime soon. The purpose of my dislike of a career politician, is that they become detached from their voter base and they don't even realize it.

Oh, and Happy Leif Erikson Day (10/9)!

[Warriorbird]

Less powerful members of Congress are even more corruptable.

[Latrinsorm]

You're interested, go ahead and find them.

Well, we can take this list and start with Truman because everyone knows that nothing bad happened under FDR, the first coming of our Lord and Savior BHO INRI GHOTI, so the list can't be trusted until after that. All figures given at the time of conviction:

Curley - 2 term rep
May - 8 term rep
Thomas - 5.5 term rep
Brehm - 3.5 term rep
Bramblett - 0.5 term rep
Lane - 7.5 term rep
Boykin - 14 term rep
Brewster - 1 term sen (finally!)
Ted er uh Kennedy - 3.5 term rep
Hastings - 3.5 term rep
McKneally - 1 term rep
Whalley - 6.5 term rep
Gallagher - 6.5 term rep
Hanna - 5.5 term rep
Brasco - 4 term rep
Podell - 3.5 term rep
Dowdy - 9 term rep
Tonry - 0 term rep (served 4 months in Congress, served 6 months in prison)
Clark - 10 term rep
Michael Myers - 2 term rep
Diggs - 16.5 term rep (first black guy on the list, just throwing that out there)
Richmond - 4 term rep

That gets us through Carter, and since you people wouldn't change your minds no matter what the numbers said and I'm only doing this for my own interest, let's take those 21 reps and see what we get: 116.5 terms over 21 gives us an average of 5.5 ± 1.0 terms. The average career of a representative according to the least known by far Manning sibling was 4.6 terms and you can tell she'll never get a ring on account of not including an error bar, but to the best of our knowledge the two measurements are statistically indistinguishable.