Round 1 of the Democrat debate.

[Taernath]

In any case, I'm glad I have you to formulate my arguments for me. It saves me time which could be better spent trolling lnet.

[Androidpk]

We must protect unchecked capitalism at all cost!

[Warriorbird]

Here is a similar meme on Snopes being fact cheecked and pretty much the taxation is spot on. Just because it's a meme doesn't make it untrue.

Or true in this case. Doing business in Denmark has a bunch of issues but nobody actually pays 68% in taxes.

[~Rocktar~]

Or true in this case. Doing business in Denmark has a bunch of issues but nobody actually pays 68% in taxes.

Tax plus VAT plus additional fees is pretty damn close. Just like in the US most people pay around 48-50% or more of their income in taxs and fees. And since the Supreme Court decided that health insurance can be regulated like a tax, I would argue that it is now closer to 60-70% tax or so.

[Latrinsorm]

Tax plus VAT plus additional fees is pretty damn close. Just like in the US most people pay around 48-50% or more of their income in taxs and fees. And since the Supreme Court decided that health insurance can be regulated like a tax, I would argue that it is now closer to 60-70% tax or so.

Most people pay taxes! Three cheers for Obama for ending the welfare state! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!

[~Rocktar~]

Most people pay taxes! Three cheers for Obama for ending the welfare state! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!

Troll harder.

[Thondalar]

Most people pay taxes! Three cheers for Obama for ending the welfare state! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!

We're actually at a point now where most people don't pay taxes, except for like...general sales tax...

The future is bright, I'm sure.



Edit: before all the bullshit comes in, you know what I'm saying. I think back to when I was broke and first married with a kid....I paid taxes out of my paycheck every two weeks, but I got all of it back plus an "earned income credit" for my kid...so yes, I paid during the year, but I got back every dime I paid in plus a few K at the end of the year that came from....other taxpayers? I hated it, and moved past that as quickly as possible...I was also getting about $400 per month in food stamps and free medicaid for my kid during this time...I could very well be living very comfortably to this day on that largess, but I'm not built like that...I used it as intended, for about a year or so, and got the fuck off it as quickly as possible.

[Latrinsorm]

We're actually at a point now where most people don't pay taxes, except for like...general sales tax...

Tell it to ~Rocktar~, man!

Edit: before all the bullshit comes in, you know what I'm saying. I think back to when I was broke and first married with a kid....I paid taxes out of my paycheck every two weeks, but I got all of it back plus an "earned income credit" for my kid...so yes, I paid during the year, but I got back every dime I paid in plus a few K at the end of the year that came from....other taxpayers? I hated it, and moved past that as quickly as possible...I was also getting about $400 per month in food stamps and free medicaid for my kid during this time...I could very well be living very comfortably to this day on that largess, but I'm not built like that...I used it as intended, for about a year or so, and got the fuck off it as quickly as possible.

As a fellow person who has been broke in their life (and I'm childless!) I find it extremely hard to believe all of these statements at the same time. I certainly would have liked 8k a year, yes, but would have that made me "very comfortable"? No.

[Thondalar]

As a fellow person who has been broke in their life (and I'm childless!) I find it extremely hard to believe all of these statements at the same time. I certainly would have liked 8k a year, yes, but would have that made me "very comfortable"? No.

Comfortable is quite the relative term. I can't assume what would make you comfortable, so in this case I'm using it to mean the three basics...shelter, food, clothing...along with cable TV, phone/internet, and a reasonable entertainment budget. That 8k is on top of whatever money you make at your job, and doesn't include free healthcare, which will obviously vary depending on individual need, but could easily tack on another grand or two annually just from average preventive care.

If you want more than that out of life, you need to do the things necessary to improve your situation. I think it is completely unreasonable to expect society, or government, to provide anything more than that for you.

[Thondalar]

wtf...totally KILLED that...I'm guessing no response from anyone, even Latrin, in 2 days should be my victory, but...I guess I just want to rub it in.