Things that made you smile today (Political Version)

[Neveragain]

So why did 61% of them vote for him in 2016? It's not like he's changed since then.

My uncle is a Ladder Day Saint preacher, I'm pretty sure he voted Trump. I know I don't see him changing to a democrat any time soon, which is actually ironic in historic terms.

[Fortybox]

So why did 61% of them vote for him in 2016? It's not like he's changed since then.

That number is lower. Time4fun is actually correct on this and now I feel all gross because of it.

[time4fun]

So why did 61% of them vote for him in 2016? It's not like he's changed since then.

78% of that same group voted for Romney and 80% voted for Bush in his second term.

We're talking about a 20 point drop here from a group that has been an extremely reliable Republican voting bloc for decades.

So they already had their distaste for him playing out in their voting. There was an extended point in 2016 where there were genuine questions about whether or not Utah would vote for Trump- his support was very low up until the end. But many of them did "come home" to the GOP vote in the end- just far fewer than has traditionally been the case.

[Fortybox]

78% of that same group voted for Romney and 80% voted for Bush in his second term.

We're talking about a 20 point drop here from a group that has been an extremely reliable Republican voting bloc for decades.

So they already had their distaste for him playing out in their voting. There was an extended point in 2016 where there were genuine questions about whether or not Utah would vote for Trump- his support was very low up until the end. But many of them did "come home" to the GOP vote in the end- just far fewer than has traditionally been the case.

Part of it was due to the Evan McMullin thing. The reason why he was popular was because of what you say but IMO had he not run that 20 point drop would have been higher for Trump. They wouldn't have voted for Hillary.

[Taernath]

78% of that same group voted for Romney and 80% voted for Bush in his second term.

We're talking about a 20 point drop here from a group that has been an extremely reliable Republican voting bloc for decades.

So they already had their distaste for him playing out in their voting. There was an extended point in 2016 where there were genuine questions about whether or not Utah would vote for Trump- his support was very low up until the end. But many of them did "come home" to the GOP vote in the end- just far fewer than has traditionally been the case.

And yet they didn't dislike him enough to vote for Clinton, who only got 25% vs. Obama's 21% the previous election. They are still reliably Republican.

That number is lower. Time4fun is actually correct on this and now I feel all gross because of it.

I'm looking at exit polling data, what are you looking at?

[time4fun]

And yet they didn't dislike him enough to vote for Clinton, who only got 25% vs. Obama's 21% the previous election. They are still reliably Republican.



I'm looking at exit polling data, what are you looking at?

I didn't say they liked Clinton- I said they didn't like Trump. I didn't make any arguments about their Democratic support. As it happens, they were given a release valve- a third party candidate to vote for instead. Without him, many would likely have stayed at home.

And apologies for throwing out numbers and not sourcing them.

They're from Pew's Religion Forum.

[Fortybox]

I didn't say they liked Clinton- I said they didn't like Trump. I didn't make any arguments about their Democratic support. As it happens, they were given a release valve- a third party candidate to vote for instead. Without him, many would likely have stayed at home.

And apologies for throwing out numbers and not sourcing them.

They're from Pew's Religion Forum.

They would not have stayed home. Good grief...your logic...

Now I disagree with you. Thank goodness the world is normal again.

[Fortybox]

And yet they didn't dislike him enough to vote for Clinton, who only got 25% vs. Obama's 21% the previous election. They are still reliably Republican.



I'm looking at exit polling data, what are you looking at?

Not what I meant. I meant to say that I agreed with her initial assessment because the number was lower. She was right to point out why the number was lower is all.

[Taernath]

I didn't say they liked Clinton- I said they didn't like Trump.

Nope.

Trump Approval Highest Among Mormons, Lowest Among Muslims

[Fortybox]

Nope.

Trump Approval Highest Among Mormons, Lowest Among Muslims

Evan McMullin gave them a 3rd option, which is why his numbers are down.

Where time4dumb is wrong is these people would NOT have stayed at home. They would have voted Trump if McMullin wasn't on the ballot because not voting would have helped Hillary. That's what she doesn't get because she thinks Hillary is a Saint. Mormons would prefer a Trump in the White House than her. Plus voting is important for Mormons and while not necessarily part of the doctrine, is strongly encouraged.