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    Quote Originally Posted by Hymore246 View Post
    Just to be clear, you are saying that the Armor Specializations on the Maneuvers tab are not calculating correctly or is the Armor Use skill is making the Skills Panel act up?

    Also, if you haven't done so already, make sure to go back in click Calculate Build on the Skills Panel before doing the calculations on the Maneuvers Panel. The planner doesn't know you've made skill changes unless you Calculate Build again. I've made this mistake A LOT while testing the planner by forgetting to recalculate after making changes.
    No matter how many times I click, I can't get it to use more than 1 rank worth of Armor Use points towards Armored Fluidity.

    Also, My points are looking off from the real thing. I've trained exactly like what this spreadsheet says, and assuming the "left over" column means what I am supposed to have left, we're not close. It says I am supposed to have 38 PTPs and 191 MPTs left over when I have more like 1 PTP and 0 MTPs to pull off the same skill set. This *is* taking into account intra-level training, so that's not the case here.

    For reference, level 21 Sylvankind Paladin 3x Armor Use, 2x Shield use and Edged Weapons, 1x Combat Maneuvers, Physical Fitness, Paladin Spell circle, and Perception, 10 ranks of climb and swim, and 3 ranks of Minor Spiritual.

    Stat Base STR 84, CON 86, DEX 85, AGI 84, DIS 70, AUR 70, LOG 61, INT 20, WIS 80, INF 20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen View Post
    No matter how many times I click, I can't get it to use more than 1 rank worth of Armor Use points towards Armored Fluidity.

    Also, My points are looking off from the real thing. I've trained exactly like what this spreadsheet says, and assuming the "left over" column means what I am supposed to have left, we're not close. It says I am supposed to have 38 PTPs and 191 MPTs left over when I have more like 1 PTP and 0 MTPs to pull off the same skill set. This *is* taking into account intra-level training, so that's not the case here.

    For reference, level 21 Sylvankind Paladin 3x Armor Use, 2x Shield use and Edged Weapons, 1x Combat Maneuvers, Physical Fitness, Paladin Spell circle, and Perception, 10 ranks of climb and swim, and 3 ranks of Minor Spiritual.

    Stat Base STR 84, CON 86, DEX 85, AGI 84, DIS 70, AUR 70, LOG 61, INT 20, WIS 80, INF 20
    I swear to God, I hate GS4's TP conversion formula. Someday, I WILL fix it completely. I probably need to go at it from a different angle but for now I'll have to leave it be.

    I think I know what is wrong with the Armor Specializations. How many ranks of Armored Fluidity does your lvl 21 Paladin have and when did you take each rank?
    Last edited by Hymore246; 03-05-2018 at 03:42 PM.
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    >armor info
    Sindaras, your Armor Specialization training is as follows:


    Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
    Armored Fluidity fluidity 2


    Available Armor Training Points: 19
    Total Points converted during your current 30-day unlearning cycle: 150
    Number of days remaining in your current 30-day unlearning cycle: 15 days

    As for when, pre-20 I would just fixskills constantly, including CMAN, SHIELD, and ARMOR points.

    Skill Name: Armored Fluidity
    Mnemonic: fluidity
    Other Requirements: None.
    Available to: Paladins.
    Prerequisites:
    None
    Armor Point Cost:
    Rank 1: 20
    Rank 2: 30
    Rank 3: 40
    Rank 4: 50
    Rank 5: 60
    Description: Adjusts a person's armor so that they can cast spells more easily while wearing it. Reduces spell failure chance by 10% of the base spell failure chance per rank (all fractions dropped).

    So level 6? I think you'd have enough points with intra-level training to get your first rank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen View Post
    Armor Use..........................| 169 69

    >armor info
    Sindaras, your Armor Specialization training is as follows:


    Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
    Armored Fluidity fluidity 2


    Available Armor Training Points: 19
    Total Points converted during your current 30-day unlearning cycle: 150
    Number of days remaining in your current 30-day unlearning cycle: 15 days

    As for when, pre-20 I would just fixskills constantly, including CMAN, SHIELD, and ARMOR points.

    Skill Name: Armored Fluidity
    Mnemonic: fluidity
    Other Requirements: None.
    Available to: Paladins.
    Prerequisites:
    None
    Armor Point Cost:
    Rank 1: 20
    Rank 2: 30
    Rank 3: 40
    Rank 4: 50
    Rank 5: 60
    Description: Adjusts a person's armor so that they can cast spells more easily while wearing it. Reduces spell failure chance by 10% of the base spell failure chance per rank (all fractions dropped).

    So level 6? I think you'd have enough points with intra-level training to get your first rank.

    Well, this confirms my suspicions. You see, Hymore always did 2x CMAN. Training in a combat maneuver has a restriction that you cannot spend more CMAN points than your level+1 on a single maneuver. I ran into this problem day 1 when the game refused to let me learn Surge at level 0. The fact that you can learn 2 ranks of Armor Fluidity at that level means that the Armor system has different rules. Since I didn't train as much in Armor or Shield, I just assumed those systems were the same and had the same restrictions. None of this is documented on the wiki (big surprise).

    I'll work on fixing the Armor section. I'm still not sure about Shield maneuvers but I'm learning towards them working like the CMANs but I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hymore246 View Post
    Well, this confirms my suspicions. You see, Hymore always did 2x CMAN. Training in a combat maneuver has a restriction that you cannot spend more CMAN points than your level+1 on a single maneuver. I ran into this problem day 1 when the game refused to let me learn Surge at level 0. The fact that you can learn 2 ranks of Armor Fluidity at that level means that the Armor system has different rules. Since I didn't train as much in Armor or Shield, I just assumed those systems were the same and had the same restrictions. None of this is documented on the wiki (big surprise).

    I'll work on fixing the Armor section. I'm still not sure about Shield maneuvers but I'm learning towards them working like the CMANs but I could be wrong.
    Shields are limited in the same way that CMANs are, but you're correct in that ARMORMANs aren't. At least, not anything like CMANs and SHIELDMANs.
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    I've updated the planner with the Armor Specialization fix.
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