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    So tiny Arya could use the Hounds face and nobody would notice the size discrepancy?
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    from the books

    In the A Song of Ice and Fire novels, the Faceless Men are based at the House of Black and White, a temple in Braavos dedicated to the "Many-Faced God" that everyone will face, a reference to death. While they are indeed a guild of assassins, they have philosophical and religious motivations that will lead them to rejecting commissions that clash with those motivations.

    The Faceless Men are a fairly old organization, predating even the Doom of Valyria. Their founders were slaves who worked in the mines under the Fourteen Fires, the great volcanic mountain chain whose eruption destroyed the Valyrian Freehold four centuries ago. The thousands of slaves from a hundred different lands faced death on a daily basis, and over time, the belief developed among some of them that while they came from many different lands and followed many different religions, all of these religions were fundamentally the same, because they all worshiped death in some fashion. They were either polytheistic religions that had a god devoted to death, or monotheistic religions with a deity that had dominion over death. In time this turned into a syncretic belief system worshiping the Many-Faced God of Death: holding that Death has appeared to humans under many different faces as many different gods, but they are all fundamentally one god.

    The organization actually predates Braavos itself. They started out by giving the "gift" of death to slaves who were suffering particularly horribly in the mines, to ease their pain and in time, they learned to surreptitiously give the "gift" to some of their Valyrian masters as well, becoming skilled assassins. Many centuries later, the surviving Faceless Men relocated to Braavos, which was founded by ex-slaves who had escaped from Valyria (though whether this was after or slightly before the Doom is unclear).

    The Faceless Men charge exorbitant fees, but their reputation for success is unmatched. The cost increases relative to the importance of the target and the difficulty of the objective. In the first book it is said that hiring a Faceless Man to kill Daenerys Targaryen would cost more than it would to hire an entire army. Further, the Faceless Men will reject a contract if killing the target clashes with their strange, and at times inscrutable, religious beliefs. Conversely, sometimes they choose bizarre "payments" according to what they feel is due. Sometimes, if a powerful lord asks them to kill the child of one of his enemies, the Faceless Men give as their "price" that in return they will kill the lord's own child (the lord can reject this, but it also means rejecting the entire contract).

    Their fee is for a precise assassination, and the death of anyone other than the intended target is avoided whenever possible. They usually go so far as to try to make their assassinations look like accidents, adding to the mystery surrounding their order. For example, in the TV series, Jaqen kills the Tickler by sneaking up, snapping his neck, and then throwing him off a castle wall and then slipping away, leaving witnesses unsure if he was actually murdered. Jaqen did kill Amory Lorch with a poison dart, but only because he was pressed for time to kill him immediately.

    Faceless Men aren't complete shapeshifters, i.e. they can't violate the law of conservation of mass and suddenly grow drastically taller or shorter, though they can dramatically change their appearance within these parameters. Either men or women can become "Faceless Men". The abilities of Faceless Men are not genetic or limited to a specific race: anyone can become a Faceless Man with the proper training in the arcane knowledge of their order. It is debatable whether the abilities of the Faceless Men could be considered "magic": They use a variety of tools, potions, and special training to shapeshift, rather than outright incantations and spells.

    In the novels, it is implied that Euron Greyjoy hired a Faceless Man to kill his brother Balon. Euron admits he did not kill Balon by his own hands, but does not specify who did.

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    ^ that's from a wiki and is almost entirely fan theory
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tisket View Post
    Not just dead but similar in size I imagine.
    Not sure how that part works out. Arya was a lot shorter than Walder Frey but that didn't seem to matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    Not sure how that part works out. Arya was a lot shorter than Walder Frey but that didn't seem to matter.
    Jackoff H'qar was also posing as the Waif for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taernath View Post
    Jackoff H'qar was also posing as the Waif for a while.
    What happened to that dude, is he still alive?

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    slightly better wiki similar another perspective.

    The Faceless Men are a religious society of assassins who worship the Many-Faced God, a god of death. They are based in the House of Black and White, in the Free City of Braavos, though they claim to have originated in the Valyrian Freehold.

    Religion

    In the guild's House of Black and White in Braavos, followers wear black and white robes and perform religious duties for the community, such as tending to the dead. The House contains a fountain and alcoves with idols of many death gods, but there are no formal services. Some visiting worshippers light candles to their god, then drink from the fountain using a black cup. The religious order refill the fountain with a poison, so that drinking from the fountain leads to a painless death. This is sometimes referred to as "the gift" of the Many Faced God.

    A phrase associated with the cult of the Many-Faced God is valar morghulis, translated from High Valyrian as "All men must die". The traditional response to this is valar dohaeris, or "All men must serve."

    According to the guild, the god is present in many religions, all under different names. For instance, they claim it is called the Black Goat in Qohor, the Lion of Night in Yi Ti, and the Stranger in the Faith of the Seven.[1]

    Inner workings and assassinations

    Followers of Him of Many Faces consider death to be part of the natural order of things and a merciful end to suffering. For a price, the guild will agree to kill anyone in the known world, considering this contract to be a sacrament of their god. The price is always high or dear, but within the means of the person if they are willing to make the sacrifice. The cost of their services also depends on the prominence and security of the target.

    An elite group of followers within the House, the Faceless Men, are trained to perform this task. Faceless Men are occasionally women.[2] Only rarely would they train a child. They are trained to use all their senses to root out deception and create their disguises, seemingly possessing magical abilities that allow them to change their appearance at will. Part of their training includes discarding their true identity in a nihilistic way, thinking of themselves as "no one".

    The Faceless Men reconvene at the House of Black and White, the temple of the Many-Faced God in Braavos, where they discuss the potential jobs for the month and dole these contract assassinations out through a round table. An assassin only accepts an assignment if they are unfamiliar with the target.[3] They use a variety of methods to kill their targets, including a poison called the strangler.[4] The assassination technique of a Faceless Man must not be haphazard, killing only the intended target. Their fee is for a precise killing, in many cases looking like an accident, rather than an outright murder.[3]

    The Faceless Men cure the faces of the dead who come to die in their sanctuary, hanging these in deep vaults below the temple as macabre masks for use in their disguises during assassination contracts. These are more than masks, however, and the wearer assumes the true appearance when applied using a tribute of one's own blood to moisten the application. In this way, the Faceless Men are using tools as part of their disguise, rather than a reliance on glamours or outright magic for disguises.[3]

    History

    The society originated in the volcanic slave mines of Valyria, prior to the founding of Braavos and the Doom of Valyria. The tale of its beginnings centers around a figure of unknown origins who was the first Faceless Man. This man heard the prayers of the slaves to their various gods and came to conclude that they all prayed to the same god "with a hundred different faces", the Many-Faced God, and that he was "that god's instrument". This led to him giving "the first gift" to the most desperate slave. The first Faceless Man later brought the gift to the masters as well.[1][5]

    Prince Harlan Hoare was rumored to have been killed by a Faceless Man.[6]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    What happened to that dude, is he still alive?
    Arya just kind of walked away from him at the end of S6, so I'd assume so.

    Here's the scene I was talking about:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koars Light View Post
    also even if they manage to get one to the landing I would just think cersei would be all like cool zombie bro i got one too
    Her zombie ain't got shit on the real thing.
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    Next episode already leaked, any of you watch it yet? No spoilers but shit just got real.

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