UAC Ranger help

[Derex]

Need 2x hiding 1x cman and 1x ambush ambush

[wetsand]

Here's my UAC gnome ranger at level 38. It is a fun build but bards, monks and rogues are better suited to UAC. His self spelled UAF and DS are not in line with like level bards, monks and rogues. (Mind you, he is f2p so no society bonuses)

 Tiny (at level 38), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
  Skill Name                         | Current Current
                                     |   Bonus   Ranks
  Two Weapon Combat..................|      86      19
  Armor Use..........................|     120      30
  Combat Maneuvers...................|     140      40
  Brawling...........................|     180      80
  Ambush.............................|     138      39
  Multi Opponent Combat..............|      54      11
  Physical Fitness...................|     138      39
  Dodging............................|     136      38
  Harness Power......................|     136      38
  Survival...........................|     138      39
  Stalking and Hiding................|     180      80
  Perception.........................|     138      39
  Climbing...........................|     120      30

Spell Lists
  Minor Spiritual....................|               8

Spell Lists
  Ranger.............................|              30
Training Points: 6 Phy 4 Mnt
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)

[Maerit]

Here's my UAC gnome ranger at level 38. It is a fun build but bards, monks and rogues are better suited to UAC. His self spelled UAF and DS are not in line with like level bards, monks and rogues. (Mind you, he is f2p so no society bonuses)

 Tiny (at level 38), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
  Skill Name                         | Current Current
                                     |   Bonus   Ranks
  Two Weapon Combat..................|      86      19
  Armor Use..........................|     120      30
  Combat Maneuvers...................|     140      40
  Brawling...........................|     180      80
  Ambush.............................|     138      39
  Multi Opponent Combat..............|      54      11
  Physical Fitness...................|     138      39
  Dodging............................|     136      38
  Harness Power......................|     136      38
  Survival...........................|     138      39
  Stalking and Hiding................|     180      80
  Perception.........................|     138      39
  Climbing...........................|     120      30

Spell Lists
  Minor Spiritual....................|               8

Spell Lists
  Ranger.............................|              30
Training Points: 6 Phy 4 Mnt
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)

I would think you'd have a similar UAF to a Rogue considering you have 606, and they would have 2x CMAN. Might even be higher if you use 608 prior to an ambushed punch. The real advantage a Rogue is going to have (and Monk) is their MM will be higher via punch mastery CMAN.

[panapple]

Wait, so you don't have to 2x ambush anymore? From previous posts on this subject, it seemed like that was a must in order to aim/tier up from hiding?

And which CMANs should I be taking? Thanks!

[Maerit]

Totally up to you, but I'd recommend (assuming you're looking to ambush from hiding):

1. Feint
2. Shadow Mastery
3. Cunning Defense

Post-cap you can get 2x CMAN and branch out to some more things that will help with defense. Shadow Mastery is nice for the 4/5 ranks to reduce hiding RT.

[Derex]

Wait, so you don't have to 2x ambush anymore? From previous posts on this subject, it seemed like that was a must in order to aim/tier up from hiding?

And which CMANs should I be taking? Thanks!

The sacrifice for 2x ambush as a ranger until later lvls isn’t worth it