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  1. #101

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelerm View Post
    AU: 8 ranks
    MOC: dropped completely
    PF: 1x
    Climb/Swim: 0.5x each for now. Understanding that I know about what I'll need for higher levels, but will fixskill again if I have to by the time this becomes an issue.
    Percep: 0.5x
    AS: 1x
    MIU: 1x
    HP: 1x
    SA: 1x
    EMC: 1x
    SMC: 24 ranks
    MnE: 1x
    MnS: 0.5x
    Sorc: 1x
    SL - Demon: 28 ranks
    SL - Necro: 5 ranks
    ^^^ Current Training at Level 32

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    I quit playing the game shortly after starting this thread for a long while, as I had a lot of RL things to take care of, but it's all behind me now and I've recently reopened my account.

    I also consolidated my multiple accounts into one account, so I am no longer MAing.

    Reading back through this thread again, this is the training plan I've concluded using the spreadsheet:

    At Level 32:

    AU: 8 Ranks
    PF: 24 Ranks (I don't know why I didn't notice that more PF != more Hit Points)
    Climbing/Swimming: 0.5X (will fixskill annually accordingly to adjust as needed to access hunting areas)
    Perception: 0.5X
    AS: 1X
    MIU: 1X
    HP: 1X
    SA: (Dropped)
    EMC: 1X
    SMC: 1X
    MinE: 20 Ranks (Stopping here for now)
    MinS: 11 Ranks (Working to get to 2/3 level, will achieve at Level 55, then will 1X for life while dumping all extra points in MinE beginning at Level 56)
    Sorc: 52 Ranks (Maintaining +20 ranks for life, so 1x beginning at level 33)
    SL - Demon: 50 Ranks
    SL - Necro: 1 Rank

    Leaves 2 PTP / 0 MTP

    Thoughts?
    [help]-GSIV:Mahnigga: "I don't get why I got sent to the rename pavilion"

    "Of course, a Dark Elf couldn't make the same use out of Sign of Wracking due to the slow spirit regen. As a halfling, I'm usually wracking as often as Jeril touches himself. A dark Elf can probably only wrack as often as Gib says something nice to someone."

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    Perception and PF helps with defense vs. combat manuevers...the prime reason why sorcerer's die. Due to that, I would suggest 1x in both PF and perception.

    Getting to 425 and 430 is very important for MnE. 425 gives a nice CS boost and 430 is essential defense. Also, 120 in the MnS is a nice DS/TD boost. I would shoot for 430, 120, then get +21 ranks of sorcerer spells over your level.

    Why the demonology ranks? Necromancy helps with gaining energy for ensorcelling (which will be silvers in your pocket) AND helps your 705 spell do more damage. The lores should come behind the spell training at least getting to 430, 120, and +21 sorcerer spells above level...after that is when I would train lores.
    Last edited by Tenser; 12-05-2017 at 07:09 PM.

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    In my opinion you want to go to at least 425 in MnE. I think all wizard and sorcerer guides stress to have 425 at level 25. While it seems like a great bonus, defenses on most creatures over level 25 are balanced assuming that you have 425 running. So not having it would make your life much harder than it needs to be. I have personally always aimed for 430 at 30 as well, but 430 may be less critical, depending where/what you hunt and what gear and access to outside spells you have.

  4. #104

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    Thanks a lot for the advice.

    So after I reach +21 Sorcerer Ranks, I'll maintain +21 for life. Then I start to work to get MnE up to 1x and then maintain that for life, and then finally I start to work to get MnS up to 2/3x and maintain that for life.

    I run into a Training Point deficit at level 58 with this plan. What are the most important things to maintain and what can be sacrificed until post cap to eliminate the TP deficit? Obviously, maintaining +21 Sorc, 1x MnE, and 2/3x MnS are important, and I need to get my Necro ranks up as quickly as possible and it would be nice to get some Demonology, too...

    Throttling the SMC back doesn't really amount to much savings, but throttling PF does at 8/0 per rank. It's becoming more and more attractive to throttle it back to a max of 0.5x, which still leaves me in a deficit. I can eliminate the deficit completely by stopping training SMC at level 70 (giving me a total of 71 ranks at cap).

    Here's the training plan at Level 32 with most of your advice incorporated (0.5x PF, but 1x in perception):

    AU: 8 Ranks
    PF: 0.5X
    Climbing/Swimming: 0.5X each (will fixskill adjust annually as needed to access hunting areas)
    Perception: 1X
    AS: 1X
    MIU: 1X
    HP: 1X
    EMC: 1X
    SMC: 1X
    MnE: 30 ranks (Come back to this after +21 Sorc and work to get to 1X, then 1x for life to maintain and work on MnS to 2/3x)
    MnS: 20 ranks (Come back to this after +21 Sorc and 1X MnE to get to 2/3x)
    Sorc: 39 Ranks (scheduled to hit +21 at level 39, then will 1X beginning at level 40 to maintain +21 for life and work on MnE to level)
    SL - Necro: 13 ranks
    SL - Demon: 0 ranks

    This leaves me with 190 PTP and 0 MTP.

    I will hit +21 Sorc at Level 39. I will hit 1x MnE at Level 58. I will hit 2/3x MnS at cap.

    Here's what the plan looks like at cap:

    AU: 8 Ranks
    PF: 0.5X
    Climbing/Swimming: 0.5X (same as before, will adjust annually as needed)
    Perception: 1X
    MIU: 1X
    HP: 1X
    EMC: 1X
    SMC: 71 Ranks
    MnE: 101 Ranks (1X)
    MnS: 66 Ranks (2/3X)
    Sorc: 121 Ranks (+21)
    SL - Demon: 25 Ranks
    SL - Necro: 53 Ranks

    Leaving 4 PTP/0 MTP
    [help]-GSIV:Mahnigga: "I don't get why I got sent to the rename pavilion"

    "Of course, a Dark Elf couldn't make the same use out of Sign of Wracking due to the slow spirit regen. As a halfling, I'm usually wracking as often as Jeril touches himself. A dark Elf can probably only wrack as often as Gib says something nice to someone."

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    MnE only needs to get to 75ish
    EMC and SMC can easily be 0.5x and you won't feel much of a difference
    I would stop MnS at 40 ranks until after you reach cap
    Are you training in Arcane Symbols? I suggest 0.5x to 1x.
    I still feel 1x PF will serve you well.
    Climb and Swim you only need 50 ranks total in, and prior to 80th level most areas 20 or 30 ranks work fine.
    Why 25 ranks of demon lore?

  6. #106

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    MnE to 75 ranks - Thanks, it was suggested earlier to get it to 1x.

    EMC/SMC at 0.5x - okay, I'll see what that does

    MnS to 40 ranks - Again, thanks - it was suggested earlier to get it to 2/3x

    I am training in AS - going to 1x (left it out of the post by accident)

    PF at 1x - Agreed. With these extra points freed up, maybe I can afford it, but it was also suggested to wait until post cap to get to 1x.

    Climb/Swim - Good point

    Demon Lore: Primarily for 704 and 712 benefits.
    [help]-GSIV:Mahnigga: "I don't get why I got sent to the rename pavilion"

    "Of course, a Dark Elf couldn't make the same use out of Sign of Wracking due to the slow spirit regen. As a halfling, I'm usually wracking as often as Jeril touches himself. A dark Elf can probably only wrack as often as Gib says something nice to someone."

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    You are on a pretty good path now. Go for it and adjust your skills may with the free fixskill if you want to change anything.

  8. #108

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    Did the following training:

    AU: 8 Ranks
    MOC: 0 Ranks
    PF: 1X
    Climbing/Swimming: 0.5X
    Perception: 1X
    First Aid: 0 Ranks
    Trading: 0 Ranks
    Survival: 0 Ranks
    AS: 1X
    MIU: 1x
    HP: 1X
    EMC: 0.5X
    SMC: 0.5X
    MnE: 30 Ranks
    MnS: 20 Ranks
    Sorc: 39 Ranks
    Necro: 1X

    I was able to hunt Sorcerer's Isle alone and was able to fry without having to wrack once.

    CS is up from 178 to 195. Not sure how much my TD changed, as I haven't had to ward anything yet.

    Overall, I'm very happy with this build and I really appreciate all of the great advice.
    [help]-GSIV:Mahnigga: "I don't get why I got sent to the rename pavilion"

    "Of course, a Dark Elf couldn't make the same use out of Sign of Wracking due to the slow spirit regen. As a halfling, I'm usually wracking as often as Jeril touches himself. A dark Elf can probably only wrack as often as Gib says something nice to someone."

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