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    Nice work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavman View Post
    Question all

    So does INt and WIS bonus WAY outway the Secondary of Arcane Symbol and MIU?

    I see some who dumped those completely

    How would that effect your Hunting?


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    Way late on this but if you never did get an answer. Yes, primary stats and sorcerer ranks play a far larger role in your success with ensorcell then secondary skills do. If you've noticed, my sorcerer barely has any skills beyond 1x HP and spells. The higher CS makes him a better hunter. He dies slightly more then someone who invests heavily into scroll infusion and spell tanks up the wazoo but I am alright with that.
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    Did T1 and T2 casts on some honey badger armor the other night. 0x MCP

    172 sorc spell ranks
    100 WIS
    100 INT
    202 AS
    202 MIU
    135 EMC
    135 SMC

    no workshop, no enhancives, T1:
    You channel at some supple full leather stitched together from honey badger pelts.
    You sense that the full leather has not yet been permanently ensorcelled and that you should be able to ensorcell it easily enough, barring bad luck.

    Went to the workshop, put on about +26 WIS stat and got it down to "you can only fail if you are horribly unlucky"

    For T2 cast, in workshop with same enhancives on:
    You sense that the full leather has already been permanently ensorcelled 1 time and that you are more likely than not to succeed on your cast, but you will need some luck. (drop from 99% chance to 55-74% chance with one layer of ensorcell)

    Put on the rest of enhancive set (max INT/WIS and some other stuff, still in workshop):
    You sense that the full leather has already been permanently ensorcelled 1 time and that the odds are on your side to successfully complete the ensorcellment. (jump up to 75-89% chance)

    Cast:
    Having probed the full leather already, you begin to channel your stored necrotic energy at it. You carefully regulate the flow of energy in order to attempt to overcome its natural resistance while not simultaneously overwhelming yourself...

    You make a very poor attempt!

    Success!

    (10-19 roll on 75-89% probably just squeezed by)

    Using #s from https://gswiki.play.net/mediawiki/in...5#Difficulties
    Last edited by Allereli; 12-15-2015 at 07:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen View Post
    I didn't want to jump on this question right away when you asked in the other thread as I was hoping someone might have info I lacked, but i'm pretty sure the difference between Primary and Secondary factors of Ensorcell was never clearly stated. Your best bet would be asking in the sorcerer folder on the officials.

    As to dumping Arcane Symbols and MIU, if you hunt with a runestaff it will lower your DS, as these skills count as magical ranks. Beyond that, Scroll Infusion would clearly suffer or become outright unusable. Durations for spells from scrolls and magical items like small statues would decrease. If you went low enough some/all scrolls would become unusable, but small statues would retain their base duration of 10 minutes, even with 0 MIU. No other sorcerer spells besides Scroll Infusion and Ensorcell would suffer, though.
    I'm a little late to the game, but:

    Arcane Symbols.....................| 282 182
    Magic Item Use.....................| 201 101
    Elemental Mana Control.............| 102 24
    Spirit Mana Control................| 102 24

    Sorcerer...........................| 121


    I can ensorcell okay. Basically the worst capped sorcerer out there, but I don't think any uncapped ones are really doing much better. I can manage stuff that people are willing to pay 2m/week for. I think my last thing was 7x fusion t4 with no enhancives at a workshop - only if horribly unlucky. (Edit: Or may it was with a decent set of enhancives. I forget :-/)
    Last edited by Goat; 12-19-2015 at 01:40 PM.
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    T4 on 10x flaring weapon

    Use of an Enhancive Boost with max stats does nothing since the boost doesn't affect any skills.

    Sorcerer...........................| 172
    Intuition (INT): 100 (30) ... 140 (50)
    Wisdom (WIS): 100 (30) ... 140 (50)
    Arcane Symbols.....................| 329 229
    Magic Item Use.....................| 302 202
    Elemental Mana Control.............| 244 144
    Spirit Mana Control................| 248 148

    Workshop no enhancives:
    this ensorcellment will be nearly impossible.

    Workshop enhanced:
    this ensorcellment will be difficult, but possible.
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    7x/6x acuity runestaff w/ rotflares - 1st tier cast

    Level: 58
    Sorcerer spell ranks: 90
    Wisdom: 99
    Intuition: 89
    EMC Ranks: 50
    SMC Ranks: 50
    Arcane Symbols Ranks: 60
    Magic Item Use Ranks: 60
    Difficulty: more likely than not to succeed on your cast, but you will need some luck (4)
    Attempt: good attempt
    Success!
    Last edited by drauz; 05-20-2016 at 10:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drauz View Post
    7x/6x acuity runestaff w/ rotflares

    Level: 58
    Sorcerer spell ranks: 90
    Wisdom: 99
    Intuition: 89
    EMC Ranks: 50
    SMC Ranks: 50
    Arcane Symbols Ranks: 60
    Magic Item Use Ranks: 60
    Difficulty: more likely than not to succeed on your cast, but you will need some luck (4)
    Attempt: good attempt
    Success!
    What tier? The rotflares don't add anything to difficulty.
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    T1

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    I didn't know that rotflares had been tested for increased difficulty...haven't seen any comparison data points of two equivalent pieces as there isn't much rotflare to compare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumblz View Post
    I didn't know that rotflares had been tested for increased difficulty...haven't seen any comparison data points of two equivalent pieces as there isn't much rotflare to compare.
    rotflares are a script.
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