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  1. #131

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    If I haven't said it before. This is the coolest fucking thing on PC. It's guided the last two characters I've made and gotten to 40 and 60. I'd buy you a beer or three if I could.
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  2. #132

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    Answers that, I think: Earring is +5 ranged bonus, +5 ambush bonus:

    XXXXXX swings a zorchar-runed ebonwood staff at you!
    AS: +167 vs DS: +437 with AvD: +7 + d100 roll: +32 = -231
    A clean miss.
    The guiding force leaves XXXXXX.

    You remove a glimmering ruby sunburst earring from your earlobe.

    You put a glimmering ruby sunburst earring in your faenor-stitched cloak.

    XXXXXX swings a zorchar-runed ebonwood staff at you!
    AS: +167 vs DS: +436 with AvD: +7 + d100 roll: +97 = -165
    A clean miss.
    The guiding force leaves XXXXXX.
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  3. #133

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    Here's another tidbit (see bolded text below) that I inserted into the Basic Mechanics section on the KP guide that's not in the PC version. I'll need to compare the guides more thoroughly and to see where other edits may be needed.
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    1. Basic Mechanics:
    Bows and crossbows require ammunition, which can either be purchased at bowyer's shop, bought from other players, or made by the archer (see Fletching). Many people find ammunition to be the most irritating of the requirements for archery and the requirement turns many people off. Done properly, however, it's a very simple adjustment. For additional information, see the AIM and FIRE commands in the game.

    You may hold your bow in either hand, though the game will automatically place it in your left hand (if it's free) if you use the READY and UNSHEATHE verbs. It is important to note that holding bows or crossbows in the right hand changes the DS profile from ranged weapon to the melee weapon counterpart (bows --> quarterstaff, crossbows --> cudgel). Generally, an archer will have a higher DS with the weapon held in the left hand.

    Mark

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    (Wrong math. Ignore.)
    Last edited by BriarFox; 03-08-2013 at 08:49 PM.
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    There's an encumbrance factor in there somewhere as well...


    >forage for snapdragon stalk
    d100(Open): -251
    You stumble about in a fruitless attempt at foraging.

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    I'm ignoring encumbrance. It affects things, but it's a secondary consideration, especially for ranged, where it has no effect on DS.
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  7. #137

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    Quote Originally Posted by BriarFox View Post
    I'm ignoring encumbrance. It affects things, but it's a secondary consideration.
    That's not the issue. You are confusing the dodge formula vs ranged attacks and its 1.5 multiplier with a ranged weapon user's dodge DS vs melee attacks. There is only one formula that applies to all characters.

    Your melee parry DS:

    [(307 + 101 + 103) * .15] + 30 = 106 parry DS

    Note: always truncate after each operation

    Your dodge DS:

    (101 + 35 + 6) * .92 * .75 = 97

    Parry: 106
    Dodge: 97
    Armor: 35
    ------------
    Total DS: +238

    You'll see that in the KP guide I removed dodge DS. It just complicates calculating total DS having all that info there.
    Last edited by Riltus; 03-09-2013 at 06:05 AM.

  8. #138

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    Ahh, I gotcha. Thanks, Mark.
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    Damage factors for composite bows need updating per
    http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthrea...mization/page2


    >forage for snapdragon stalk
    d100(Open): -251
    You stumble about in a fruitless attempt at foraging.

    1/6/2014: Setheve completes the promotion ritual and says, "Congratulations, Whirlin, for achieving Guild Master status! We trust you'll serve your guild well."
    1/11/2014: Grandmaster Alchemist
    1/14/2014: Capped, and got Loralaii killed by a GM.
    7/11/2016: Founded the Hand of the Arkati
    9/20/2016: T5 on my bow (Thanks to Isola)... Managed as far as T4 myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlin View Post
    Damage factors for composite bows need updating per
    http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthrea...mization/page2
    Updated. I've always been confused as to why bows have a better DF against scale than leather, though.
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