1650/1635 ideas & comparison.

[TheLastShamurai]

i like it, just do not usually find time to cast it at one particular thing.

if it had a mass form, i would use it a lot.

[Grimaldus]

A mass version of pious trial might be interesting, I use the normal one with feint to control grizzled/ancient creatures from bounties.

I also don't like having a weak version of a cleric spell clogging up the 40th slot, I would rather spend 40 mana for an effective version of Divine Vengeance. If I have to die to see the spell go off, I would hope it would be impressive.

[Stunseed]

As a Ranger, I'd be willing to pay 50 mana for a BESEECH factor which is more than the other two semi classes. In fact, since animals break stuns very quickly, you can tie it into 650 to make it decent.

[TheLastShamurai]

As a Ranger, I'd be willing to pay 50 mana for a BESEECH factor which is more than the other two semi classes. In fact, since animals break stuns very quickly, you can tie it into 650 to make it decent.

it would be a neat side effect of 650. or they could make companions worth their salt.

the avians could pick you up, the canines drag you away and the rodents could chuckle as you die.

[TheLastShamurai]

mass attack spell achieved!

now only if i had that many MnS ranks.

[thefarmer]

It still doesn't count.

Paladins need one in their own circle.

[TheLastShamurai]

works for me.