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    My characters name is Jiire, the rogue. I deactivated about, 5 or 6 years ago and reactivated today to find alot of changes. Just looking for some help in getting reaquainted with how us rogues work these days, heres my information:

    Name: Jiire Piranos Race: Half-Elf Profession: Rogue (shown as: Locksmith)
    Gender: Male Age: 413 Expr: 636476 Level: 23
    Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
    Strength (STR): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
    Constitution (CON): 67 (8) ... 67 (8)
    Dexterity (DEX): 97 (28) ... 97 (28)
    Agility (AGI): 99 (34) ... 99 (34)
    Discipline (DIS): 76 (8) ... 76 (8)
    Aura (AUR): 75 (12) ... 75 (12)
    Logic (LOG): 61 (5) ... 61 (5)
    Intuition (INT): 61 (5) ... 61 (5)
    Wisdom (WIS): 63 (6) ... 63 (6)
    Influence (INF): 43 (2) ... 43 (2)

    Jiire (at level 23), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
    Skill Name | Current Current
    | Bonus Ranks
    Armor Use..........................| 143 43
    Shield Use.........................| 143 43
    Combat Maneuvers...................| 108 26
    Edged Weapons......................| 150 50
    Ambush.............................| 128 34
    Physical Fitness...................| 102 24
    Dodging............................| 141 41
    Survival...........................| 58 12
    Disarming Traps....................| 158 58
    Picking Locks......................| 158 58
    Stalking and Hiding................| 150 50
    Perception.........................| 145 45
    Climbing...........................| 62 13
    Swimming...........................| 54 11
    First Aid..........................| 58 12
    Training Points: 0 Phy 55 Mnt (204 Mnt converted to Phy)
    (Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)

    12 days remain until the annual FIXSKILLS is to be granted, on 05/20/2006.

    Your 30 day migration period will begin when you choose to degrade a skill.

    Further information can be found in SKILL FAQS.

    ---and i recieved this message when i logged on today

    Notice: Your training grace period is scheduled to end at 6/7/2006 14:47:25 CDT (more than a week from now). When this time has passed, you will no longer be able to adjust your stats, and your skill migration will proceed at the normal rate (i.e., not accelerated like it is now).

    ---i also know that Combat manuevers were changed to actual maneuvers rather than just doge, and i have some of those to train in a guess? ANyway, thanks ahead of time for any help

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    Is there anything specific you were looking to do?

    As far as the combat maneuvers go, type CMAN LIST to see which ones are avaiable to you. You can type CMAN HELP to see what each maneuver does.
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    I feel like Backlash is a baby sea turtle in every thread he jumps in- you want to root for the little guy to make it, but you just know he's going to get eaten before he ever tastes the ocean.

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    Sword and board is still effective but you have a lot more options as far as hunting styles now.

    You can go with:
    Two-handed weapons
    Two weapon combat
    Archery

    You can fit in lockpicking into your plan if you want, pickpocketing is plenty easy too. Damn near any option will work now. If you like to experiment with your options I'd do so before the quick migration is up.
    The Nalfein Kitten

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapp
    Is there anything specific you were looking to do?

    As far as the combat maneuvers go, type CMAN LIST to see which ones are avaiable to you. You can type CMAN HELP to see what each maneuver does.
    Well i want to be a good picker and ambusher, dont need to steal from people. From what im hearing, my training isnt going to differ much\

    Heres what i had in mind

    Jiire (at level 23), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
    Skill Name | Current Current
    | Bonus Ranks
    Armor Use..........................| 143 43 (was 2x until lvl 19 i believe, 1x from there on in)
    Shield Use.........................| 143 43 (same as armor, 1x now, was 2x)
    Combat Maneuvers...................| 108 26 (1x, if extra points, put them here occasionally)
    Edged Weapons......................| 150 50 (full train)
    Ambush.............................| 128 34 (2x)
    Physical Fitness...................| 102 24 (1x)
    Dodging............................| 141 41 (2x)
    Survival...........................| 58 12 (every other level)
    Disarming Traps....................| 158 58 (2x) - Sometimes put extra points here
    Picking Locks......................| 158 58 (2x) - Sometimes put extra points here
    Stalking and Hiding................| 150 50 (2x)
    Perception.........................| 145 45 (2x)
    Climbing...........................| 62 13 (Occasionally with extra points)
    Swimming...........................| 54 11 (occasionally with extra points)
    First Aid..........................| 58 12 (occasionally with extra points)

    Also i have a problem with low mana under the new systems, only have 3 mana, so i was told to put a point into harness power every once in a while.

    Thoughts? Comments, Suggestions?
    Last edited by Jiire; 05-11-2006 at 10:40 PM.

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    Umm.. Better off quitting GS. not worth the reactivation, seriously.

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    If it holds interest for a few weeks or a month then I think it is worth it.
    Enjoy the new changes. Cmans in themselves are gonna be a load of fun to discover for you.

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    Here's my rogue, whom I consider a balanced hunter and picker with a little pickpocket thrown in. Use this info if it helps.
    __________________________________________________ _______
    Ganalon (at level 81), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
    Skill Name | Current Current
    | Bonus Ranks
    Armor Use..........................| 180 80
    Shield Use.........................| 181 81
    Combat Maneuvers...................| 181 81
    Edged Weapons......................| 266 166
    Ambush.............................| 261 161
    Physical Fitness...................| 166 66
    Dodging............................| 182 82
    Arcane Symbols.....................| 108 26
    Magic Item Use.....................| 50 10
    Harness Power......................| 40 8
    Disarming Traps....................| 344 244
    Picking Locks......................| 342 242
    Stalking and Hiding................| 346 246
    Perception.........................| 347 247
    Climbing...........................| 120 30
    Swimming...........................| 120 30
    Pickpocketing......................| 264 164
    Spell Lists
    Minor Elemental....................| 4

    >cman info
    Ganalon, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:
    Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
    Shadow Mastery smastery 4
    Silent Strike silentstrike 3
    Specialization II wspec2 5
    Surge of Strength surge 3
    Cutthroat cutthroat 1
    Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 1

    <Master of COL>

    >profile ganalon
    Name: Ganalon O'Grady
    Race: Human Gender: Male
    Age: in the flower of life (41)
    Date of Birth: 11/20/5064
    Clan: Vornavis
    He currently has full citizenship in Isle of the Four Winds.
    Member of Silvergate Inn
    Most difficult lock picked: -1150
    Most difficult trap disarmed: -450

    >gld rank ganalon
    Ganalon is a 249 rank Guild Master of the Rogue Guild.
    Master of Sweep.
    Master of Stun Maneuvers.
    Master of Rogue Gambits.
    Last edited by Gan; 05-14-2006 at 03:28 PM.
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    I'm not sure if this'll help....but I'll post up my junk and explanations to the training:


    Name: XXXXXXXX Race: Half-Elf Profession: Rogue (shown as: Scoundrel)
    Gender: Male Age: 87 Expr: 6742064 Level: 92
    Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
    Strength (STR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
    Constitution (CON): 96 (23) ... 96 (23)
    Dexterity (DEX): 97 (28) ... 97 (28)
    Agility (AGI): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
    Discipline (DIS): 99 (19) ... 99 (19)
    Aura (AUR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
    Logic (LOG): 98 (24) ... 98 (24)
    Intuition (INT): 96 (23) ... 96 (23)
    Wisdom (WIS): 93 (21) ... 93 (21)
    Influence (INF): 67 (13) ... 67 (13)

    Level 0 Stats for XXXXXX, Half-Elf Rogue

    Strength (STR): 68
    Constitution (CON): 70
    Dexterity (DEX): 60
    Agility (AGI): 60
    Discipline (DIS): 78
    Aura (AUR): 83
    Logic (LOG): 73
    Intuition (INT): 61
    Wisdom (WIS): 82
    Influence (INF): 25

    Stats are pretty self explanatory. I placed them for maximum scores at or near cap. Just as a note, I would definitely drop the strength even lower if I had it to over again, even tho it would make hunting at a young age a little tougher. Infuence would take a hit too, and I'd dump those extras into wisdom, con, and intuition.

    You seem to be in one piece.

    Maximum Health Points: 158
    Remaining Health Points: 158

    Maximum Spirit Points: 10
    Remaining Spirit Points: 10

    Maximum Stamina Points: 119
    Remaining Stamina Points: 119


    XXXXXX (at level 92), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
    Skill Name | Current Current
    | Bonus Ranks
    Armor Use..........................| 210 110
    Shield Use.........................| 197 97
    Combat Maneuvers...................| 229 129
    Edged Weapons......................| 288 188
    Ambush.............................| 255 155
    Physical Fitness...................| 212 112
    Dodging............................| 257 157
    Arcane Symbols.....................| 90 20
    Magic Item Use.....................| 90 20
    Harness Power......................| 54 11
    Disarming Traps....................| 340 240
    Stalking and Hiding................| 275 175
    Perception.........................| 278 178
    Climbing...........................| 105 25
    Swimming...........................| 114 28

    Spell Lists
    Minor Elemental....................| 25


    As for the training plan, it had always been my plan to wear half plate armor, thus the outrageous armor training. Singling in shield has been fine, but I find myself with spare points so I kick those into shield and physical training, for redux purposes. I'll let whoever wants to do the math figure out what the training comes to, e.g., 1.5x, 2x, etc.

    Weapon training is a personal choice. I chose to stick with axe and board (I hate sword and board, axes do so much more for me). I know some ranged rogues that do well in the barrier and some that don't fare so well. Personally I think it's all in your hunting strategy. Just remember you're not a juggernaut and you'll usually walk or crawl out alive.

    At 90 I dropped picking altogether, kept disarm and picked up 25 ranks in MinE. That's pretty self explanatory to any rogue that hunts in the barrier and has been spell-raped before. Now I wedge everything except scales boxes and they find their way into the barrel.

    Just in case you're not wanting to use points for spells, and you plan on making it into an area with spellburst, I'd plan on picking up alot of MIU and arcane symbols. The more training you have in those, the more spells you can wear in spellburst areas.

    Keep the swimming and climbing basic...just enough to get to where you need to go. 25-30 ranks of each should do just that.

    As for survival and first aid? BLECH!! Wasted points if you ask me. I can hunt for coin just as fast as I could skin for coin. ::


    XXXXXX, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:

    Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
    Combat Focus focus 5
    Specialization I wspec1 5
    Surge of Strength surge 5
    Cutthroat cutthroat 4

    CMANs, CMANs, CMANs...I wish I had more points to dump into this for AS, DS and the cool shit you can do to people ::cough::, I mean critters. I'm working toward doubling, but I don't see that happening till post-cap.


    Name: XXXXXX
    Profession: Scoundrel
    Race: Half-Elf Gender: Male
    Age: young (87)
    Most difficult lock picked: -1200
    Most difficult trap disarmed: -480

    The trap is still correct, but the locksmithing is gone. Just a personal preference. I'd rather stay alive in the barrier than drug to the portal. Tho that still happens every now and then.

    You are a Grandmaster of the Rogue Guild.
    You are current with your dues and must check in again sometime in the next 6 days.
    You currently have 372 ranks out of a possible 372 for your training.

    You are a Master of Sweep.

    You are a Master of Subdue.

    You are a Master of Stun Maneuvers.

    You are a Master of Lock Mastery.

    You are a Master of Cheap Shot.

    You are a Master of Rogue Gambits.

    Get your guild work done early. The 2 I use most at 92 are cheapshots and stun maneuvers. Sure it may be easy to get sweep reps, but stun-mans are gonna save your ass a hella-lot more than sweep.

    Sorry this is such a long post, but I hope it's been helpful to someone. Feel free to offer pointers or point out any shortfalls you may see in the training here. I may not agree, but I'm pretty good at taking constructive criticism.

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    1 coin on Grandmaster rogue.

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    HAHAHA...it's not selling...it's a reply to the thread.

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