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    Quote Originally Posted by chrenraf View Post
    Well, when doing so is a ban-able offense it wouldnt take long to weed it out. Also, like I said, lich uses very specific timing for it's commands and can already (and most likely probably did ages ago) make a program that instantly recognizes it and could ban those using it in that area. In order to get to the area you would be well aware of the consequences. no oops I didn't know! monitoring it wouldn't take quite the manpower folks would think. Everything is logged and they just would have a program that sniffs lich users out, extracts the logs, places then in a folder, and then staff reviews it as able.

    It's a post cap ascension ground so it's not like people will just make new characters to evade the system. That, and getting caught jacking around in that area and getting a ban would result in lowering the re-sale value of the character especially if it became a well liked area.
    You know how trivial it is to add a randomized pause before and between every lich command to emulate human player input? Or even random typos for that matter.

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    it would take quite a bit more than that. every action would have to have a randomized pause or delay. Even then, a quick check will find someone on auto.

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    It's very easy to add randomness to all commands by passing them all through a humanizing function that mimics human behavior and speed, and no, it wouldn't at all be easy to tell apart who's a human and who isn't so not sure what you mean by a "quick check". If this was quick and easy online MMOs wouldn't all be overrun by thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of bots.

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    I meant a quick check by a GM in the same way they do script checks now.

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    that being said, would you manually play in an area such as this if the rewards were greater as stated?

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    So can warriors berserk in this area?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrenraf View Post
    Well, when doing so is a ban-able offense it wouldnt take long to weed it out. Also, like I said, lich uses very specific timing for it's commands and can already (and most likely probably did ages ago) make a program that instantly recognizes it and could ban those using it in that area. In order to get to the area you would be well aware of the consequences. no oops I didn't know! monitoring it wouldn't take quite the manpower folks would think. Everything is logged and they just would have a program that sniffs lich users out, extracts the logs, places then in a folder, and then staff reviews it as able.

    It's a post cap ascension ground so it's not like people will just make new characters to evade the system. That, and getting caught jacking around in that area and getting a ban would result in lowering the re-sale value of the character especially if it became a well liked area.
    You're aware that this:

    a) Would require a ton of resources from Simu to both implement and monitor/enforce

    b) Would get abused as fuck by some of the mentally ill staff members who have a permanent a boner for banning people

    c) Would be remarkably unfun for people who use combat and/or movement (i.e. ;wander) scripts for QoL reasons and not to automate their hunting

    d) Wouldn't be worth the hassle no matter how good the loot or exp is.

    e) Would piss off the entire playerbase

    f) Would eventually get "beaten" by some nerd anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilchristr View Post
    So can warriors berserk in this area?


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    Quote Originally Posted by chrenraf View Post
    Well, when doing so is a ban-able offense it wouldnt take long to weed it out. Also, like I said, lich uses very specific timing for it's commands and can already (and most likely probably did ages ago) make a program that instantly recognizes it and could ban those using it in that area. In order to get to the area you would be well aware of the consequences. no oops I didn't know! monitoring it wouldn't take quite the manpower folks would think. Everything is logged and they just would have a program that sniffs lich users out, extracts the logs, places then in a folder, and then staff reviews it as able.

    It's a post cap ascension ground so it's not like people will just make new characters to evade the system. That, and getting caught jacking around in that area and getting a ban would result in lowering the re-sale value of the character especially if it became a well liked area.
    GMs can barely hold back blatant AFK scripting and you are saying they should go after lich. You’re a funny guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrenraf View Post
    that being said, would you manually play in an area such as this if the rewards were greater as stated?
    It's doable if Simu wanted to do it. Creatures with random names, random objects flagged as monsterbold, heavy script checks, more severe punishments, etc.

    That said, I wouldn't play it unless the rewards were massive. If you got 10x exp/loot and no loot cap then maybe?

    The appeal to GS today is the automation. It's a game I can play while I work. The game is way too slow and the world way too big to play manually.

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