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  1. #251

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    I don't hate the DOJ... I don't hate the FBI... I don't hate C&B... I don't hate the Marshalls... I don't hate the DEA... I don't hate any of them... I actually trained and worked with all of those agencies...

    You know who I do hate? The politically appointed leaders at the top who provide the directions for such shit to occur.

    Once again, I've given you the part that sticks for me... the reported JUN 2022 message that was supposedly signed by one of their lawyers. You just don't like that.

    So again... neither you, nor I, know the answers to the questions you're asking... might be a good idea for DOJ and NARA to explain themselves then shouldn't they?

    And just for fun...

    In fact, can you think of one single situation where someone or some organization criticized him, contradicted him or tried to hold him accountable that THEY didn't tell you was corrupt, evil, and false?

    I mean... I'm pretty sure there is ample evidence to support that... don't you?

  2. #252

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Now we just need to wait for Seran to explain how it's actually a good thing when the DOJ wants to keep things a secret.
    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    They all know the DoJ can't actually agree to release it. They're counting on that so they can turn around and say "SEE??? CORRUPTION!"

    There's also this huge added witness intimidation benefit of scaring off anyone who might be working with the DoJ on this case- or any others.
    Meh. Seran, time4fun, they are pretty much interchangeable.

    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    We've never seen this kind of political violence and targeted harassment at this scale in the US in our lifetimes. It's scary stuff.
    Left wing goons literally burned down entire city blocks all across the country for 7 months in 2020. Left wing goons have vandalized dozens of churches and pregnancy centers since a left wing law clerk released a draft of the supreme court's decision to overturn Roe. Left wing goons have been "protesting" outside the homes of the conservative supreme court justices for months, one of them even brought guns and said he wanted to kill multiple conservative justices.

    But, yes, you're totally right, people saying dumb shit on Twitter because they think the FBI is a corrupt organization is for sure the most political violence and targeted harassment in the US in our lifetimes.
    Last edited by Tgo01; 08-15-2022 at 08:57 PM.

  3. #253

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    Many folks in the GOP are asking for it. I have no doubt Trump is as well.

    They all know the DoJ can't actually agree to release it. They're counting on that so they can turn around and say "SEE??? CORRUPTION!"

    There's also this huge added witness intimidation benefit of scaring off anyone who might be working with the DoJ on this case- or any others. Everyone knows what happened to the FBI Agents whose names were on the warrant when Trump/Breibart decided to release an unredacted version of it. Everyone knows what happens to people who do anything that ends up bad for Trump when their names get out in public.

    We've never seen this kind of political violence and targeted harassment at this scale in the US in our lifetimes. It's scary stuff.

    It's also disgusting. A lot of these people calling for its release are former prosecutors. They know exactly what they're doing.
    I KNOW RIGHT??????

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61735321

    "US man charged with attempted murder of Justice Brett Kavanaugh"

    https://www.fox6now.com/news/kyle-ri...tograph-jurors

    "Kyle Rittenhouse trial: MSNBC barred from court, producer followed jury bus"

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkel...h=5417620073f8

    "The ‘Autonomous Zone’ In Seattle Is A Harbinger Of America’s Future If Politicians Don’t Start Working Together"

    Oh... almost forgot the big one...

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...stly-in-histo/

    "Insurance payout of 2020 riots most costly in history, could top $2 billion: Report"

    And you know those insurance companies don't fuck around... "mostly peaceful" though, right?
    Last edited by Shaps; 08-15-2022 at 09:20 PM.

  4. #254

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    https://apnews.com/article/election-...ee9170d66cefec

    "Ex-FBI lawyer admits to false statement during Russia probe"

    "...former FBI lawyer pleaded guilty Wednesday to altering a document related to the secret surveillance of a former Trump campaign adviser during the Russia investigation."

    https://www.npr.org/2020/01/11/79556...mpaign-adviser

    "FBI Apologizes To Court For Mishandling Surveillance Of Trump Campaign Adviser"

    ""The FBI has the utmost respect for this Court and deeply regrets the errors and omissions identified by the Office of the Inspector General," Wray wrote in the filing, calling the FBI's conduct in relation to the Page surveillance "unacceptable and unrepresentative of the FBI as an institution."

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/pr/f...fire-hurricane

    "FBI Attorney Admits Altering Email Used for FISA Application During "Crossfire Hurricane" Investigation"

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fisa...ry?id=67785661

    "FISA court issues rare order to DOJ, FBI following scathing watchdog review"

    Maybe there is a reason people are asking for transparency? Just saying...


    Glad that you think, based on your comments over the past few days... that everyone involved should be fired, security clearances revoked, and jailed. Oh wait...


    P.S. Lets have some fun with this...

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspi...h=38969884752a

    "'Fast And Furious' Just Might Be President Obama's Watergate"

    "Why a gunrunning scandal codenamed "Fast and Furious," a program run secretly by the U.S. government that sent thousands of firearms over an international border and directly into the hands of criminals, hasn't been pursued by an army of reporters all trying to be the next Bob Woodward or Carl Bernstein is a story in itself."

    Hopefully they lock up Holder and Obama too... damn, maybe you and I think more alike than I thought.
    Last edited by Shaps; 08-15-2022 at 09:15 PM.

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    I forgot how much REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE T4F has in it. Are things heating up?
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    Click the link above to see how much you owe the government.

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  6. #256

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    Many folks in the GOP are asking for it. I have no doubt Trump is as well.

    They all know the DoJ can't actually agree to release it. They're counting on that so they can turn around and say "SEE??? CORRUPTION!"

    There's also this huge added witness intimidation benefit of scaring off anyone who might be working with the DoJ on this case- or any others. Everyone knows what happened to the FBI Agents whose names were on the warrant when Trump/Breibart decided to release an unredacted version of it. Everyone knows what happens to people who do anything that ends up bad for Trump when their names get out in public.

    We've never seen this kind of political violence and targeted harassment at this scale in the US in our lifetimes. It's scary stuff.

    It's also disgusting. A lot of these people calling for its release are former prosecutors. They know exactly what they're doing.
    Say whaaaat?! There hasn't been an instance of Trump trying to intimidate a witness for weeks.

  7. #257

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaps View Post
    I don't hate the DOJ... I don't hate the FBI... I don't hate C&B... I don't hate the Marshalls... I don't hate the DEA... I don't hate any of them... I actually trained and worked with all of those agencies...

    You know who I do hate? The politically appointed leaders at the top who provide the directions for such shit to occur.

    Once again, I've given you the part that sticks for me... the reported JUN 2022 message that was supposedly signed by one of their lawyers. You just don't like that.

    So again... neither you, nor I, know the answers to the questions you're asking... might be a good idea for DOJ and NARA to explain themselves then shouldn't they?

    And just for fun...

    In fact, can you think of one single situation where someone or some organization criticized him, contradicted him or tried to hold him accountable that THEY didn't tell you was corrupt, evil, and false?

    I mean... I'm pretty sure there is ample evidence to support that... don't you?
    Look, Shaps is trying the typical GOP misdirection by getting people to be distracted away from Trump's misdeeds by finding examples of slightly less serious misdeeds. Hahahaha
    Last edited by Seran; 08-15-2022 at 09:49 PM.

  8. #258

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Meh. Seran, time4fun, they are pretty much interchangeable.



    Left wing goons literally burned down entire city blocks all across the country for 7 months in 2020. Left wing goons have vandalized dozens of churches and pregnancy centers since a left wing law clerk released a draft of the supreme court's decision to overturn Roe. Left wing goons have been "protesting" outside the homes of the conservative supreme court justices for months, one of them even brought guns and said he wanted to kill multiple conservative justices.

    But, yes, you're totally right, people saying dumb shit on Twitter because they think the FBI is a corrupt organization is for sure the most political violence and targeted harassment in the US in our lifetimes.
    Look, more GOP misdirection. Riots! Hillary's Emails! Other non-relevant things to the topic!!

  9. #259

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Look, Shaps is trying the typical GOP misdirection by getting people to be distracted away from Trump's misdeeds by funding examples of slightly less serious misdeeds. Hahahaha
    YOU... ARE... A... FUCKING... MORON.

    All you're getting out of me buddy.

  10. #260

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaps View Post
    https://apnews.com/article/election-...ee9170d66cefec

    "Ex-FBI lawyer admits to false statement during Russia probe"

    "...former FBI lawyer pleaded guilty Wednesday to altering a document related to the secret surveillance of a former Trump campaign adviser during the Russia investigation."

    https://www.npr.org/2020/01/11/79556...mpaign-adviser

    "FBI Apologizes To Court For Mishandling Surveillance Of Trump Campaign Adviser"

    ""The FBI has the utmost respect for this Court and deeply regrets the errors and omissions identified by the Office of the Inspector General," Wray wrote in the filing, calling the FBI's conduct in relation to the Page surveillance "unacceptable and unrepresentative of the FBI as an institution."

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/pr/f...fire-hurricane

    "FBI Attorney Admits Altering Email Used for FISA Application During "Crossfire Hurricane" Investigation"

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fisa...ry?id=67785661

    "FISA court issues rare order to DOJ, FBI following scathing watchdog review"

    Maybe there is a reason people are asking for transparency? Just saying...


    Glad that you think, based on your comments over the past few days... that everyone involved should be fired, security clearances revoked, and jailed. Oh wait...
    See! Shaps announces belligerently, three links describing the same single instance of the FBI punishing one of it's own over a mishandling of an investigation. Trump must be innocent! Gurgle.

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