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    Wait, I am threatening to quit? I thought I did the exact opposite. Maybe you need to re-read what I said?
    Donquix just makes things up and then decides it happened.
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    Excited enough about these changes to dust off my rogue again after being shelved. Has a level of maintenance to retain the knowlege of the skills that I am a little meh about BUT overall it is super cool and I have been dying for poisons for a long time. This may have an effect of reviving the guild as well which I would love since IMO cheapshots is like THE best.


    Also the pickpocketing CVC thing doesn't bother me one way or the other. I get that it is super important to some people but I think folks are losing sight of the other very promising changes because of one thing they really don't like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orthin View Post
    Also the pickpocketing CVC thing doesn't bother me one way or the other. I get that it is super important to some people but I think folks are losing sight of the other very promising changes because of one thing they really don't like.
    Yeah, but the one thing happens to be of an existential nature to some, like me. The cost of living in an open world is that sometimes, very infrequently, bad things happen. You are also free to take precautions against said bad things. Instead we are getting a nanny game where we can just homogenize away all the inconvenient stuff. If the game has passed me by, that is ok. Things change and not everyone will be on board all the time. It's ok.

    I also pledged never to support or align myself with the "safe space mafia" and I consider myself a principled person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orthin View Post
    Also the pickpocketing CVC thing doesn't bother me one way or the other. I get that it is super important to some people but I think folks are losing sight of the other very promising changes because of one thing they really don't like.
    I would literally prefer to not have this update if it means no pickpocketing flag. And this is coming from someone that has campaigned extensively to get service skills for all. I think this service skill is the best service skill of any class to date, and it's awesome.

    It's sad that something I should be elated over, instead has me depressed. "Here, let me give you a cake, but I'm going to stab you in the stomach too!"

    Mechanical and income boosts are fantastic, and I care about them a ton. But ultimately that's not why I personally play this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobius1 View Post
    Wait, I am threatening to quit? I thought I did the exact opposite. Maybe you need to re-read what I said?
    lol

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    So apparently there's been an average of 3 steal attempts a day in the entire game for the past month?? So I don't think it's worth everyone getting their knickers in a twist over this. Mobius despite his objections to the flag obviously isn't stealing from anyone so I'm not sure why he's so upset, and those that don't like CvC clearly haven't been unwilling participants anyway.

    Will this uproar trigger a potential sticky fingered crime wave? Will the Paladins form a retaliatory miniature horsey group to bring order back to the lands? who knows?! more at 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter View Post
    So apparently there's been an average of 3 steal attempts a day in the entire game for the past month?? So I don't think it's worth everyone getting their knickers in a twist over this. Mobius despite his objections to the flag obviously isn't stealing from anyone so I'm not sure why he's so upset, and those that don't like CvC clearly haven't been unwilling participants anyway.
    All sensible. But we should begin with the principle of "if it's not broken don't fix it." If it has been a game system since the game's inception and hasn't seemed to create any major or chronic issues, then we should leave it be.

    Constant improvement of the game is a great thing, but we should accord long standing game systems some level of deference, especially if it's a solution in search of a problem, as it seems to be here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter View Post
    So apparently there's been an average of 3 steal attempts a day in the entire game for the past month?? So I don't think it's worth everyone getting their knickers in a twist over this. Mobius despite his objections to the flag obviously isn't stealing from anyone so I'm not sure why he's so upset, and those that don't like CvC clearly haven't been unwilling participants anyway.

    Will this uproar trigger a potential sticky fingered crime wave? Will the Paladins form a retaliatory miniature horsey group to bring order back to the lands? who knows?! more at 6.
    I have been grinding on Atoll where the node is sancted. I don't plan to stay here forever, especially once I get the RP engine running.

    That statistic literally means nothing about my character as I could just as easily have been on vacation for 2 months. I think it's quite clear this means quite a lot to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter View Post
    Will this uproar trigger a potential sticky fingered crime wave? Will the Paladins form a retaliatory miniature horsey group to bring order back to the lands? who knows?! more at 6.
    That sounds more intriguing than yet another set of guild reps that will be scripted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter View Post
    So apparently there's been an average of 3 steal attempts a day in the entire game for the past month??
    That's absolutely hilarious. Do you have a link to a post or is it from Discord?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mobius1 View Post
    I have been grinding on Atoll where the node is sancted. I don't plan to stay here forever, especially once I get the RP engine running.

    That statistic literally means nothing about my character as I could just as easily have been on vacation for 2 months. I think it's quite clear this means quite a lot to me.
    You're right that it means nothing about your character, but it suggests that in a game with potentially hundreds of characters with pickpocket training logging in daily, an exceedingly small number of them actually do it. It also suggests that the grand pronouncements of GS' viability and supposed sense of immersion hinging on that particular skill is bunk.

    How many times would you say you usually use the skill per day, anyway?
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