14 Mass Shootings in the USA Over Memorial Day Weekend

[Realk]

Do you honestly think the school resources officer and two police officers who exchanged gunfire and were out front before the shooter even got in the school wouldn't have approached, or used lethal force if he were only wielding a knife? I don't think you do.

If he didn't have a gun, the body count wouldn't have made it past 2-3 if he killed anyone at all

I honestly think that you don't have a gun fight if both parties are not armed. That has no bearing on anything though to answer the question. So if he was wielding a knife he would have walked in much faster and unnoticed.

Lets be honest about it.. if you wanted to kill people you can make anything a weapon pretty quickly...guns arent the problem.

[Orthin]

Even if no one approached him, you can outrun a knife or bat and there is more physical exhaustion involved having to apply the force needed versus using a gun and more added risk to the user which plays into it someone would even think to carry out the action.

Without advocating one way or the other on guns looking at all these tools one is clearly more effective than the others and to me comparing them like equals in the same scenario just doesn’t jive.

I would always rather someone on the other side have a knife/bat over a gun just like I would much rather personally have a gun over a knife/bat.

[~Rocktar~]

Even if no one approached him, you can outrun a knife or bat and there is more physical exhaustion involved having to apply the force needed versus using a gun and more added risk to the user which plays into it someone would even think to carry out the action.

Without advocating one way or the other on guns looking at all these tools one is clearly more effective than the others and to me comparing them like equals in the same scenario just doesn’t jive.

I would always rather someone on the other side have a knife/bat over a gun just like I would much rather personally have a gun over a knife/bat.

[Methais]

Assuming the school resource officer and the rest of Uvalde police would have set aside their cowardice to engage? Assuming one of the adult teachers wouldn't have risked their lives to stop him from using a knife? How about the fact the kid waited until he could purchase two AR-15s and hundreds of bullets, when at any point he could have used a knife before?

That's why it's bullshit. A police officer would have put him down if he was using a melee weapon and no teacher was going to sit still while he systematically stabbed the adults and children to death.

You really are dense as fuck. Try to keep up.

[Orthin]

I wasn’t talking about taking your guns so not sure what you are looking for.

[Seran]

You really are dense as fuck. Try to keep up.

Your worthless opinion is noted.

[Seran]

I honestly think that you don't have a gun fight if both parties are not armed. That has no bearing on anything though to answer the question. So if he was wielding a knife he would have walked in much faster and unnoticed.

Lets be honest about it.. if you wanted to kill people you can make anything a weapon pretty quickly...guns arent the problem.

The dude was intent on murdering children. If he had a knife of baseball bat, the Uvalde SRO or Uvalde police would have stopped him.

The fact he had an AR-15 overwhelmed the capabilities of the local police, and he murdered children. The vast difference in armament and the cowardice of the police is what caused this tragedy, all of which would have been prevented if he didn't have a gun.

[Tgo01]

Are Seran and Macguyver tag teaming the crazy now?

[Orthin]

The dude was intent on murdering children. If he had a knife of baseball bat, the Uvalde SRO or Uvalde police would have stopped him.

The fact he had an AR-15 overwhelmed the capabilities of the local police, and he murdered children. The vast difference in armament and the cowardice of the police is what caused this tragedy, all of which would have been prevented if he didn't have a gun.

Every human is subject to fight/flight and it takes a lot of training and real life exposure to those events to condition yourself against instinct. I would never call anyone regardless of their position a coward if they were in a live fire moment and could not act according. Should they look for a new job, absolutely; but should they be labelled a coward, no.

[Seran]

Every human is subject to fight/flight and it takes a lot of training and real life exposure to those events to condition yourself against instinct. I would never call anyone regardless of their position a coward if they were in a live fire moment and could not act according. Should they look for a new job, absolutely; but should they be labelled a coward, no.

Police training should overcome that, and although you're right about right or flight being a biological instinct, that commander is now a council member after holding back his officers from engaging. The victim count likely would have been far lower had he not /acted/ like a coward.

Uvalde shooting: The cowards in Stetsons

Turns out, tough Texans in Stetsons aren’t so tough.

The excuses offered by police in Uvalde to excuse their cowardice only confirm their cowardice.

Nineteen armed police stood in an elementary school hallway and did nothing for more than an hour while an armed teenager murdered 19 children pleading for help and the two teacher

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