14 Mass Shootings in the USA Over Memorial Day Weekend

[Seran]

Using your source, we don't have a gun epidemic.

Quit asking everyone else to give shit up because you choose to live in an overpopulated shit hole.

That is your incorrect opinion. Most people don't see a massive problem, where children are being murdered and say, "Oh, well about fifty years ago it was once worse. Second worst is no big deal, this is fine."

[Menos]

It's sad that gun deaths /and/ active shooter events have drastically risen since Clinton's assault rifle ban (which included the AR-15) sunset, and yet Republicans hail the increase in gun violence and deaths as the golden age of gun rights.

And yet amazing how the number of gun deaths per capita INCREASES in states with few gun control regulations, but is LOWER in states with a great number of gun control regulations.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...hs-in-the-u-s/

The statistics can be made to say many things, if you twist them right. Lets take a couple of those comparisons from your link, but digging into the numbers more than the overview.

Wyoming: Firearm death rate 25.9 per 100k, homicide 4.9 per 100k, drug overdose deaths 17.4/100k
NY: Firearms death rate 5.4 per 100k, homicide 4.7 per 100k, drugs 25.4/100k
California: Firearm death rate 8.5 per 100k, homicide 6.1 per 100k, drugs 21.8/100k

So the most to least restrictive gun laws have basically zero effect on murders. All of the "Effect" on gun violence is there because they are conflating total deaths related to a gun with intentional murders. It is just that people with guns who want to kill themselves use the gun instead of some other means. Correlation is not causation, if your science teachers didn't drive that home on the first day, you should go back to school and slap them. Heck, I bet zero people kill themselves by running the car in the garage if they have no car. We better ban cars. Better ban all the drugs too, those overdose numbers are way over the murder rates.

[Neveragain]

That is your incorrect opinion. Most people don't see a massive problem, where children are being murdered and say, "Oh, well about fifty years ago it was once worse. Second worst is no big deal, this is fine."

It's not a massive problem as your own source proves.

You don't get to spend 5 years calling for the defunding of police, calling for the end of cash bail, rioting in the streets, burning down private property, crash the economy and then demand people hand over their means of self defense.

[Menos]

It's not a massive problem as your own source proves.

You don't get to spend 5 years calling for the defunding of police, calling for the end of cash bail, rioting in the streets, burning down private property, crash the economy and then demand people hand over their means of self defense.

If you want to see cause and effect driving murders, look at the NYC numbers before and after the defund movement. But hell, what are a few score more dead people in the city if someone gets to buy a couple of mansions out of the deal? Am I right?

[Menos]

If you want to see cause and effect driving murders, look at the NYC numbers before and after the defund movement. But hell, what are a few score more dead people in the city if someone gets to buy a couple of mansions out of the deal? Am I right?

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[kutter]

By that graph it looks like NYC is approaching and surpassing the numbers from the Cocaine Cowboys era and THAT was some bloody shit right there.

[Seran]

The statistics can be made to say many things, if you twist them right. Lets take a couple of those comparisons from your link, but digging into the numbers more than the overview.

Wyoming: Firearm death rate 25.9 per 100k, homicide 4.9 per 100k, drug overdose deaths 17.4/100k
NY: Firearms death rate 5.4 per 100k, homicide 4.7 per 100k, drugs 25.4/100k
California: Firearm death rate 8.5 per 100k, homicide 6.1 per 100k, drugs 21.8/100k

So the most to least restrictive gun laws have basically zero effect on murders. All of the "Effect" on gun violence is there because they are conflating total deaths related to a gun with intentional murders. It is just that people with guns who want to kill themselves use the gun instead of some other means. Correlation is not causation, if your science teachers didn't drive that home on the first day, you should go back to school and slap them. Heck, I bet zero people kill themselves by running the car in the garage if they have no car. We better ban cars. Better ban all the drugs too, those overdose numbers are way over the murder rates.

Hey speaking of twisting numbers which plainly show a higher per capita death rate due to gun violence in state's without gun laws, you're claiming that's just because people are killing themselves. Alright, so let's pretend the suicide rate is soo high in those states, that it grossly inflates the per capita homicide rates, that's not problematic in itself? Life is so hard people are desperate enough to buy guns and kill themselves, that is such a major read flag as people think guns will solve their problems. Maybe that's why red states enjoy higher per capita gun homicides, which is the chief reason to control them in the first place.

[Seran]

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I know you're not so blind as not to note that the numbers were already seriously exploding before the defunding the police discussion started and failed.

[Neveragain]

Jerry Nadler really is a comic book villain.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hvGrDTmPJNDi/



Nadler: "An 18 year old doesn't have a fully developed brain, therefore, they should be 21 to own a gun."

Massie: "Will the chairman (Nadler) help me co-sponsor a bill to raise the draft age to 21?"

Nadler (abruptly): "No!"

Massie: "But the chairman feels that their brains aren't fully developed at 18, 19 and 20."

Nadler: splutters...."the, the... research does indicate that, but..but, the selective service needs (pause)....I mean, if the country needs people, it needs people. "

Massie: "The selective service needs people whos brains aren't fully formed?"

Nadler: "In certain respects, yes."

[Neveragain]

Hey speaking of twisting numbers which plainly show a higher per capita death rate due to gun violence in state's without gun laws, you're claiming that's just because people are killing themselves. Alright, so let's pretend the suicide rate is soo high in those states, that it grossly inflates the per capita homicide rates, that's not problematic in itself? Life is so hard people are desperate enough to buy guns and kill themselves, that is such a major read flag as people think guns will solve their problems. Maybe that's why red states enjoy higher per capita gun homicides, which is the chief reason to control them in the first place.

You should just be honest. You want the Democrats to be able to riot and burn down private property every election season and not get shot in the face while doing so.