Brian Flores sues the NFL for racism

[Parkbandit]

I think the Belichick text is enough. And again, for the third or fourth time... They should have shut.... the.... fuck.... up.... unti lthe interviews were all done. This wouldn't even be an issue if they didn't for whatever reason tell people outside their own organizations.

Perhaps.

But he is also saying this happened to him previously... 2019 Denver Broncos.

And Belichick didn't send him any texts prior to his interview there.

[kutter]

For a man and coach, love him for standing up for winning. For an employee that winning gave us Tua Tagovailoa instead of maybe Joe Burrow, he was difficult to work with and may have cost us a franchise QB.

Maybe the NFL should change the way they select the draft order if they don't want coaches/owners doing everything they can do to get better draft spots.

I agree you want someone that is never happy with a losing performance, that being said you also have to play the long game as well as the short.

As far as Tua, I will say this, I am an LSU guy, so when he was at Alabama I would have liked to break both his legs and that is because he is a gifted quarterback. The only thing I can say bad about him is he seems a little fragile. That being said it is not all his fault since teams will go out and get a franchise quarterback and not spend the money/draft picks to get a line to protect him, add in that the Fins did not have a running game to speak of and there is an awful lot of reasons that Tua has struggled. I happen to think he can be a franchise QB but no one can do it alone, not even that guy that just retired to his supermodel wife.

[Parkbandit]

I agree you want someone that is never happy with a losing performance, that being said you also have to play the long game as well as the short.

As far as Tua, I will say this, I am an LSU guy, so when he was at Alabama I would have liked to break both his legs and that is because he is a gifted quarterback. The only thing I can say bad about him is he seems a little fragile. That being said it is not all his fault since teams will go out and get a franchise quarterback and not spend the money/draft picks to get a line to protect him, add in that the Fins did not have a running game to speak of and there is an awful lot of reasons that Tua has struggled. I happen to think he can be a franchise QB but no one can do it alone, not even that guy that just retired to his supermodel wife.

He did it in New England.

Then again in Tampa.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I think if you want to see racism in something, you will. That and microaggressions.

[Shaps]

This is why "mandates" are bullshit.

The NFL is performance based. Unless specific actions, words, or evidence is provided that someone was not hired based upon their skin color... there should be no "requirements" IMO.

I understand why they did it at first, but the only way past "racism" is to stop forcing "race" into a performance based position.

It's not teams fault if they have a list of candidates, interview half, decide they like someone and want to hire them... but because they are "mandated" by the league to complete the interviews... that somehow they are suddenly racist.

People complain there are no Black owners. What about Asian owners? What about Indian coaches? What about "insert whatever adjective you want" coach/owner/GM.

Sometimes there is racism, and racist people. Most the time, in a performance/results based industry that only worries about money.... no one gives two shits what color someone is if they win.

So the NFL wasn't racist against Flores for the past 17 years as he worked in football... but because he got fired after a sub .500 record and didn't happen to get a job immediately, it suddenly is?

Should the Black GM's for teams be called "Uncle Toms" for hiring white coaches? Are they racists too?

Make everything about race, race becomes the only thing that matters... /shrug.

Shame to see.

Edit: Also funny to me how no one points this out... Miami's GM... is Black... so he must be racist too... since Flores got fired. Cracks me up that every article/pundit/comment on his firing leaves that tidbit out.

[Parkbandit]

This is why "mandates" are bullshit.

The NFL is performance based. Unless specific actions, words, or evidence is provided that someone was not hired based upon their skin color... there should be no "requirements" IMO.

I understand why they did it at first, but the only way past "racism" is to stop forcing "race" into a performance based position.

It's not teams fault if they have a list of candidates, interview half, decide they like someone and want to hire them... but because they are "mandated" by the league to complete the interviews... that somehow they are suddenly racist.

People complain there are no Black owners. What about Asian owners? What about Indian coaches? What about "insert whatever adjective you want" coach/owner/GM.

Sometimes there is racism, and racist people. Most the time, in a performance/results based industry that only worries about money.... no one gives two shits what color someone is if they win.

So the NFL wasn't racist against Flores for the past 17 years as he worked in football... but because he got fired after a sub .500 record and didn't happen to get a job immediately, it suddenly is?

Should the Black GM's for teams be called "Uncle Toms" for hiring white coaches? Are they racists too?

Make everything about race, race becomes the only thing that matters... /shrug.

Shame to see.

Edit: Also funny to me how no one points this out... Miami's GM... is Black... so he must be racist too... since Flores got fired. Cracks me up that every article/pundit/comment on his firing leaves that tidbit out.

Flores was 24-25 over 3 seasons and had a winning record in the last 2. By all accounts, he is a decent football coach.

[Gelston]

So, he told the Saints what he was about to do before he did it. I think he is eyeing that job.

[Shaps]

Flores was 24-25 over 3 seasons and had a winning record in the last 2. By all accounts, he is a decent football coach.

No doubt. I think he is a great coach, and Miami were dipshits to fire him. Doesn't mean I think they are racists.

Two totally different things.

It's also not to say, that he wouldn't have gotten a job in a week or two with another team. Now, not so likely.

Just weird... when he was working and had a job - nothing racist about it... he gets fired, for nothing to do about his skin color, and isn't immediately given a job... it's suddenly about race.

[Shaps]

So, he told the Saints what he was about to do before he did it. I think he is eyeing that job.

Saints would have been smart to hire him... now though, not so sure. That type of media coverage just sucks if you're management.

[Gelston]

Saints would have been smart to hire him... now though, not so sure. That type of media coverage just sucks if you're management.

The Saints have shown they don't give a fuck about media coverage.