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    Hi friends, I was just wondering what one would have to do to get a better AS with a bow, as a rogue at cap. Im rolling with AS 510 at the moment after fixskilling from TWC and Im really enjoying it.

    There was a thread years back where Droit said anything around 490ish would be considered woefully weak in Nelemar. My 60 ranger has an amazing AS for their level and it's going to be more than acceptable by cap but I can't work my rogue to get anywhere past 510 ish. I suppose it's normal to be fair as I've tried everything I can think of. I know the answer is gonna be gear but I thought id ask anyway.

    stats are:
    Strength (STR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
    Constitution (CON): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
    Dexterity (DEX): 100 (30) ... 101 (30)
    Agility (AGI): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
    Discipline (DIS): 95 (17) ... 95 (17)
    Aura (AUR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
    Logic (LOG): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
    Intuition (INT): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
    Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
    Influence (INF): 84 (22) ... 84 (22)

    Armor Use..........................| 240 140
    Combat Maneuvers...................| 250 150
    Ranged Weapons.....................| 310 210
    Ambush.............................| 302 202
    Physical Fitness...................| 302 202
    Dodging............................| 302 202
    Harness Power......................| 140 40
    Stalking and Hiding................| 403 303
    Perception.........................| 403 303
    Climbing...........................| 150 50
    Swimming...........................| 173 73

    Combat Focus focus 2/5
    Cunning Defense cdefense 5/5
    Disarm Weapon disarm 5/5 Warrior Guild
    Surge of Strength surge 5/5
    Sweep sweep 5/5 Rogue Guild
    Weapon Specialization wspec 5/5

    Any info would be great, thank you
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    Martial mastery or learning spells are the only paths you have to gaining AS that I can think of. So either go for 425, or start training up secondary/tertiary weapon skills (most efficient to get 1x in two other weapon bases first, then push for 2x in each).

    For reference: https://gswiki.play.net/Martial_Mastery

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    Ok I have 425 I’ll look into the other stuff though. That’s doable
    Thanks for chiming in that’s super helpful.
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    Ahh I see it’s 425 OR martial mastery lol. I get it now.
    Well since it’s 140 (or something near that) TP per spell past 425 where I am now, I’ll think seriously about martial mastery instead
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    My rogue's self spelled ranged AS was 693 in the Scatter (768 if I opened with spirit strike) using an 8x hand crossbow. I'll break it down some.

    Dexterity (DEX): 100 (40) ... 140 (60)

    Ranged Weapons.....................| 357 257
    Ambush.............................| 329 229
    Perception.........................| 406 306
    Minor Elemental....................| 75

    So ranged AS is calculated for hand crossbows as [Ranged Skill + DEX Bonus + (Ambush ranks - 40)/4)) + (Perception ranks - 40)/4)) + Bow Enchant Bonuses [max +50]

    So 357 + 60 + 47 + 41 + 40 (8x hand crossbow) = 545 AS from skills and bow.

    +35 signs
    +50 425
    +10 wspec
    +25 from 10x zelnorn shield
    +25 T3 briars
    = 145 AS in addition making it 690

    Not sure how I got the extra 3 AS on top of that but oh well.
    So in summary, get enhansives and better gear.
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    If you have an extra 8M exp, get 475

    If you have an extra 2M exp, pick up 2x Edged and 2x Thrown for Martial Mastery (+50)

    After that, as Malvadere said, go for enhancives and Ascension

    Enhancives: Adventurer's Guild, thrown on 10 ranks of Ranged and 5 DEX Bonus (+15)

    Ascension:
    10 Ranged for 750K exp (+10)
    10 DEX for 750K exp (+5)
    5 Ranged for 750K exp (+5)
    5 Ranged for 1.5M exp (+5)
    10 DEX 1.75M exp (+5)

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    Also, give light crossbows a go; CMAN MOBILITY is only one rank now and doesn't eat stamina, so it's basically free +30 AS if you don't mind the 4 RT.

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    That’s all superb information! Thanks a lot I’ve got a lot to work on now
    I get the feeling my ranger won’t need any of this just the rogue. Thanks a LOT! Great
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    Quote Originally Posted by dzulthu View Post
    Also, give light crossbows a go; CMAN MOBILITY is only one rank now and doesn't eat stamina, so it's basically free +30 AS if you don't mind the 4 RT.
    Light xbows are great. Archery is stupidly amazing.
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