Damn - The love didn't last long

[drauz]

So far, my 2nd favorite is the Teamsters endorsing Biden for President and one of his first EOs is cancelling the last part of the Keystone XL Pipeline project... and the Teamsters being surprised by it...

Like how fucking stupid are you?

My first favorite is the environmentalist wackjobs thinking the cancelling of the rest of the Keystone was a win. Um.. 75% of the pipeline is already done.. so instead of transporting the oil in a pipe that has negligible environmental impact, they will now load it onto trucks and trains and continue to ship it.. because that's far more environmentally sound.........

And, to be fair, it probably saved a bunch of jobs longterm. Sure there are immediate construction jobs that are lost, but for the trucking and train sectors, this is a huge win for them.

I've heard it goes over a major aquafer and if it had a leak it could contaminate drinking water for millions of people. So the environmental impact is negligible when it's working as intended, but that rarely stays that way.

It didn't seem like a great deal to begin with. Why they ship it to the Gulf of Mexico to go to China idk.

[~Rocktar~]

I've heard it goes over a major aquafer and if it had a leak it could contaminate drinking water for millions of people. So the environmental impact is negligible when it's working as intended, but that rarely stays that way.

It didn't seem like a great deal to begin with. Why they ship it to the Gulf of Mexico to go to China idk.

There is already a couple of pipelines along the route and XL would allow one of the older ones to be retired. And they want to ship it to the gulf for refining since eco-terrorists have made it impossible to build a new refinery in North America. Right now, you could own the Hansford nuclear site, one of the most polluted and dangerous places on the planet and you could not get authorization to build a new refinery because of eco-terrorist lawsuits and idiot laws. Along the gulf, when the refineries were originally built there, they bought massive tracts of land and so they have the licenses to build on those pieces of land. Therefore they have massive refineries with the capacity to expand instead of trying to build a new refinery. That is why the pipeline is such a big deal.

Right now, the oil is moved by rail, which is much much less safe, much more likely to spill and much more environmentally damaging. The thing is Warren Buffet owns the rail is a noted Leftist and has pushed this agenda from the get go since it would hurt his business.

Pipelines are and always have been, despite all the disasters combined, safer and more ecologically friendly than any other land transport of oil. Facts don't matter to the idiots protesting this pipeline and to Creepy Joe and his cronies.

[drauz]

There is already a couple of pipelines along the route and XL would allow one of the older ones to be retired. And they want to ship it to the gulf for refining since eco-terrorists have made it impossible to build a new refinery in North America. Right now, you could own the Hansford nuclear site, one of the most polluted and dangerous places on the planet and you could not get authorization to build a new refinery because of eco-terrorist lawsuits and idiot laws. Along the gulf, when the refineries were originally built there, they bought massive tracts of land and so they have the licenses to build on those pieces of land. Therefore they have massive refineries with the capacity to expand instead of trying to build a new refinery. That is why the pipeline is such a big deal.

Right now, the oil is moved by rail, which is much much less safe, much more likely to spill and much more environmentally damaging. The thing is Warren Buffet owns the rail is a noted Leftist and has pushed this agenda from the get go since it would hurt his business.

Pipelines are and always have been, despite all the disasters combined, safer and more ecologically friendly than any other land transport of oil. Facts don't matter to the idiots protesting this pipeline and to Creepy Joe and his cronies.

Still don't care it's getting 86'd. This will increase gas prices for the midwest so that an oil company can make a few more bucks selling it to China. And it will create a grand total of like 35 jobs.

[Parkbandit]

Still don't care it's getting 86'd. This will increase gas prices for the midwest so that an oil company can make a few more bucks selling it to China. And it will create a grand total of like 35 jobs.

LOL.

[drauz]

LOL.

What am I not listening to? Please enlighten me.

[Back]

Still don't care it's getting 86'd. This will increase gas prices for the midwest so that an oil company can make a few more bucks selling it to China. And it will create a grand total of like 35 jobs.

Yeah, no sympathy for the oil companies. They've lied to us for decades about the damage their products are causing to our environment while destroying said environment to get the product in the first place. We have to ditch oil production and pay all employees who lose a job over it a lifetime pension from the blood money profits those companies and CEOs raped our planet to get.

[Methais]

Yeah, no sympathy for the oil companies. They've lied to us for decades about the damage their products are causing to our environment while destroying said environment to get the product in the first place. We have to ditch oil production and pay all employees who lose a job over it a lifetime pension from the blood money profits those companies and CEOs raped our planet to get.

The device you're using to post on here wouldn't exist without oil.

Stop posting so you can help to save the environment.

[drauz]

Yeah, no sympathy for the oil companies. They've lied to us for decades about the damage their products are causing to our environment while destroying said environment to get the product in the first place. We have to ditch oil production and pay all employees who lose a job over it a lifetime pension from the blood money profits those companies and CEOs raped our planet to get.

You lost me in the second half. We do need an alternate clean energy but fuck paying someone who worked at an oil company for the rest of their lives. That's just stupid.

[Neveragain]

It's not that people don't want to move towards alternative energy. It's that nobody trusts anybody to do the right thing with the money.



We had the same thing happen with a brand spanking new, high tech ethanol plant just outside of town. They gave Dupont a bunch of money to build it then it went under. Now it's owned by some foreign entity.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, no sympathy for the oil companies. They've lied to us for decades about the damage their products are causing to our environment while destroying said environment to get the product in the first place. We have to ditch oil production and pay all employees who lose a job over it a lifetime pension from the blood money profits those companies and CEOs raped our planet to get.

Jesus...

If you are tired of the mean ol' oil companies raping our planet.. then do something about it! You come here with the stupidity you heard on Twitter or Instagram all day and regurgitating it here. Be the change instead of just being a keyboard warrior. BE the person who finally steps up and does something about it! It's easy to demand change all day from the comfort of your mom's home that has electricity (made by fossil fuels), typing away on your computer (made by petroleum products) or phone (same fossil fuel parts) and using the Internet (powered by coal fired electric plants) and espousing the change you want... while all the time benefiting from oil.

Expressing your dissatisfaction on an unofficial forum for a 30+ year old, text based roleplaying game, with oil companies, banks, rich people, etc.. is not a revolution.

If you want to make a difference in this country, what is stopping you except your own laziness? Maybe it's time to take that white, male privilege out for a test drive and prove it's real! How are you still in your situation when you are both white and male??? That just doesn't make any sense to what you clamor on about here.

I'm so tired of people like you demanding change without making the tiniest of effort and actually benefiting from the change you claim you are so against.