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    I'm thinking Dreaven is already rewriting history that it was Biden's speech urging Trump supporters to March on the Capital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Umm... You realize that you can't charge someone with lying because they state a "belief" right? It doesn't matter if he was under oath.
    You understand that all testimony, whether expert or no is always a subjective point of view and that it's up to a grand jury to decide if a law was broken, right? Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashliana View Post
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    Whoa! You can't even keep track of what you're talking about. The current SecDef was confirmed in January -- he isn't Acting. Seran, presumably, is talking about Trump's stooge, Chris Miller.

    You're an imbecile.
    It still blows my mind just how try hard Dreaven and the Fox News commentators are trying to pin the blame on Biden or to discredit Trump's own appointees.

    The GOP is doing its damndest to stamp out anyone whose unwilling to march to McCarthy's fidddle. Let's all just forget the testimony of intelligence officials, military officers involved and testimony of the insurrectionists themselves. Trump deserves a final cover up courtesy of Republican leadership.

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    Hypocrisy:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...h-vote-n917351

    https://www.npr.org/sections/live-am...rrett-hearings

    https://www.cnn.com/2012/01/20/us/oc...rts/index.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...c29_story.html

    https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...de-white-house

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...te-house-trump

    https://wtop.com/dc/2020/07/independ...g-14th-street/

    https://apnews.com/article/virus-out...fde44eb75f9512

    https://www.opb.org/news/article/por...st-courthouse/

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...tion-building/

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/rioters...se-11596061930

    I could keep going - problem is there are to many to list.... I'm sure you can guess the common thread.

    1 day of people acting like assholes from the Republican side though, and the politicians would have you believe that's the real threat. Thankfully most have been arrested, as they should be.... but to claim they're the violent contingent the country has to worry about?

    Have some dignity for yourself, your fellow citizens, and stop being a fucking ignorant jackass.
    Last edited by Shaps; 05-12-2021 at 10:17 PM.

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    Hypocrisy:

    https://katu.com/news/local/portland...help-no-thanks

    https://disrn.com/news/portland-mayo...against-antifa

    Meanwhile citizens and the people of Portland had to suffer - all for politics and hate for the bogeyman Trump.

    But your right, it's those crazy Republicans to watch out for.

    Want to know why the left is scared and has to demonize the Right? Because if the Right ever employs the same tactics that the Left does, the Left knows they'll get their asses handed to them.

    The Left are like little children, continuously hitting an adult - but because the adult knows they could harm the child if they swatted them away, they don't... but as that child gets older they keep hitting the adult - assuming the adult wouldn't do anything to them, because they hadn't for years - well eventually the adult responds and kicks their ass. They then realize, oh shit... don't antagonize someone or there are consequences.

    That's why you see "anti-police protestors" run to the police first thing if someone defends themselves against their idiocy. They're children throwing temper tantrums. The Left is just afraid, and must try to make others afraid, of the adult in the room.

    It's why when Republicans went stupid for one day at the Capitol - it's the "most dangerous thing" in the world. Because Lefties got one glimpse of a response and they are scared shitless. "Wait, wait you mean they actually might do what we do???" They fear an opponent that might actually fight back... so they demonize, demean, abuse, and hate anyone that might actually think of fighting back.

    Pretty easy psychological concepts at work here, but then people are simple so.
    Last edited by Shaps; 05-12-2021 at 10:37 PM.

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    Shaps is trying to be that obnoxious little brother who failed to learn his lesson after breaking his leg the first time he jumped off the roof. No little buddy, the internet didn't give you permission, now to put your helmet on because the short bus is almost here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Shaps is trying to be that obnoxious little brother who failed to learn his lesson after breaking his leg the first time he jumped off the roof. No little buddy, the internet didn't give you permission, now to put your helmet on because the short bus is almost here.
    So you've been reduced to straight name calling without any supporting evidence for your position. I get it. I see you. It's okay. It's not your fault. I don't blame you.

    I'll just keep watching - and I hope Biden wakes up and actually tells his handlers to go fuck themselves - because I want what's best for everyone.... Do I think it will happen? Not at all, he's mentally gone... instead they'll keep dividing and one day, you might wake up and see it yourself.

    Great thing about freedom, I don't need permission... maybe you feel like you do? That's sad if so.

    Meanwhile, I'll just keep pointing out the hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    You understand that all testimony, whether expert or no is always a subjective point of view and that it's up to a grand jury to decide if a law was broken, right? Right?
    You made a big point about it being under oath and with perjury and all that. He stated a belief. Being under Oath is irrelevant.

    Something else that is important, he changed his tone on that testimony.

    “I think now I would say that that is not the unitary factor at all,” Miller said, adding: “I would like to offer — I’ve reassessed. It’s not the unitary factor at all. It seems clear there was an organized conspiracy with assault elements in place.”

    So no, he is saying Trump's words didn't cause the attack/storming on the Capitol. Just the protest outside it.
    Last edited by Gelston; 05-13-2021 at 09:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    You made a big point about it being under oath and with perjury and all that. He stated a belief. Being under Oath is irrelevant.

    Something else that is important, he changed his tone on that testimony.

    “I think now I would say that that is not the unitary factor at all,” Miller said, adding: “I would like to offer — I’ve reassessed. It’s not the unitary factor at all. It seems clear there was an organized conspiracy with assault elements in place.”

    So no, he is saying Trump's words didn't cause the attack/storming on the Capitol. Just the protest outside it.
    Causality. Trump caused the March on the Congress and some of those who did assaulted the capital building. Had he of not given his speech, they would not have been there in the first place. So says Mr Miller, so says countless others. Only Mr Miller is also an expert witness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Had he of not given his speech, they would not have been there in the first place.
    That's about the dumbest thing I've heard yet in regards to this largely peaceful protest.

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