Training Suggestions for 89 Paladin

[Frogman452]

Hey all, about 50K away from level 90 and this character is really rounding into form. My goal is to keep his training point spending balanced so no converting of tps. I have been slowly adding skills as he gets older and will finish off 2x PF training before I hit 90 and just hit 50 paladin spell ranks. Leaning towards beefing up his CM training although getting him some dodge is also an option. Both of those routes open up small mtp opportunities. Here is his training, just looking for suggestions.


Race: Dark Elf Profession: Paladin (shown as: Preceptor)
Gender: Male Age: 324 Expr: 6415978 Level: 89
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 96 (23) ... 96 (23)
Constitution (CON): 97 (18) ... 107 (23)
Dexterity (DEX): 96 (33) ... 96 (33)
Agility (AGI): 96 (28) ... 96 (28)
Discipline (DIS): 97 (13) ... 97 (13)
Aura (AUR): 98 (34) ... 98 (34)
Logic (LOG): 98 (24) ... 98 (24)
Intuition (INT): 98 (29) ... 98 (29)
Wisdom (WIS): 96 (28) ... 96 (28)
Influence (INF): 75 (7) ... 75 (7)
Mana: 272 Silver: 0


(at level 89), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 250 150
Shield Use.........................| 282 182
Combat Maneuvers...................| 191 91
Blunt Weapons......................| 282 182
Ambush.............................| 120 30
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 155 55
Physical Fitness...................| 280 180
Harness Power......................| 189 89
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 130 35
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 120 30
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 54 11
Survival...........................| 191 91
Perception.........................| 191 91
Climbing...........................| 140 40
Swimming...........................| 145 45
First Aid..........................| 191 91
Trading............................| 120 30

Spell Lists
Minor Spiritual....................| 20

Spell Lists
Paladin............................| 50

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Combat Focus focus 1
Feint feint 5
Specialization I wspec1 5

Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 4


your Shield Specialization training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Tower Shield Focus tfocus 4
Shield Bash bash 5
Prop Up prop 3
Block the Elements eblock 2
Protective Wall pwall 2
Shield Strike strike 5

Available Shield Training Points: 11
Unlearning Shield Training Points: 19

[n0551n3n0m1n3]

From what I see you're doing good, cman definitely is your next priority up to 2x. 55 MoC should suffice, but your at a point where PTP is gonna be way more useful than MTP.

[vantho]

Agree with cman next, with plate armor and a tower shield there is enough of a penalty to dodge that cman is going to get you much more bang for your buck

[Voldemort]

Also, recommend training into a giantman or half-krov and get out of the gimp darkelf train path. You can train out of a race right?

[loxe]

question. why do you recommend 2x pf before 2x cman. I have a 78 paladin thw user. I have 1x pf, 1x dodge, and am working on getting my cman to 1.5x with a goal to get to 2x.

[vantho]

When I capped (as ohb/board) I believe I was at 1x PF and 1.5x CM. I finished up 2x PF before I pushed CM to 2x. My thought process was that it was relatively cheap (compared to double CM cost), and it was easy stamina (for GoS) / redux / maneuver defense. Whichever you choose to 2x first, you probably can't go wrong.

[Frogman452]

I went 2x PF first because I was focused on TP cost and staying balanced and not converting mental to physical. It looks like moving forward I might scrap that and dive into CM.

Anyone think shield strike mastery is worth it now that it will fire on something that is prone? Otherwise I'll add on some passive ranks of something.

[Erous]

I went 2x PF first because I was focused on TP cost and staying balanced and not converting mental to physical. It looks like moving forward I might scrap that and dive into CM.

Anyone think shield strike mastery is worth it now that it will fire on something that is prone? Otherwise I'll add on some passive ranks of something.

2x PF is the most bang for your buck and factors into your CM anyway. You eventually run out of useful CMs and you're just training in the added defense/AS it provides. I did have a note about your training regarding CMANs in particular. I would've spent points to max CDEFENSE for the added CMAN benefit, imo this is the best CMAN available. WSPEC I would've placed last behind FEINT then SURGE, which I see you haven't trained either. As a DE I imagine you're getting heavy frequently, SURGE will help you pass RT and other encumbrance issues temporarily. Then I would've dumped into WSPEC1.