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    Seran: I won't lose any sleep because the president I fully 100% support murdered seven brown children.
    Also Seran: Everyone who disagrees with me is a white supremacist!!1111!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Seran: I won't lose any sleep because the president I fully 100% support murdered seven brown children.
    Also Seran: Everyone who disagrees with me is a white supremacist!!1111!!
    I wonder if Seran knows that Christian conservatives used to vote Democrat up until the mid 80's?
    Last edited by Neveragain; 09-22-2021 at 10:13 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    I wonder if Seran knows that Christian conservatives used to vote Democrat up until the mid 80's?
    He's been told by extremely stupid people that the parties magically switched in the late 60's because Democrats are embarrassed (and rightfully so) about the history of their party... being the party of Jim Crow, KKK, against civil rights and against women right to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    He's been told by extremely stupid people that the parties magically switched in the late 60's because Democrats are embarrassed (and rightfully so) about the history of their party... being the party of Jim Crow, KKK, against civil rights and against women right to vote.
    They aren't really embarrassed since they still do the same shit, they just want to sweep it under the rug so they can continue to polish the turd. They just want things covered up so their racism and racist policies to continue to control, manipulate and profiteer off minorities can continue.
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    The daily death toll for Covid-19 is in excess of 2,000 persons per day and according to the CDC only 55% of the population is fully vaccinated, while 64% are partially vaccinated. Science has shown us that nothing will grant full immunity, while being full vaccinated will greatly reduce your chances of becoming ill and dramatically reduce the chances of severe infection requiring hospitalization.

    One has to wonder when lies being told on the Right that a previous coronavirus infection grants immunity, or that vaccinations will somehow destroy your Christian soul. It's almost like half the country is begging for more government intervention to protect them from their own dangerous ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    The daily death toll for Covid-19 is in excess of 2,000 persons per day and according to the CDC only 55% of the population is fully vaccinated, while 64% are partially vaccinated. Science has shown us that nothing will grant full immunity, while being full vaccinated will greatly reduce your chances of becoming ill and dramatically reduce the chances of severe infection requiring hospitalization.

    One has to wonder when lies being told on the Right that a previous coronavirus infection grants immunity, or that vaccinations will somehow destroy your Christian soul. It's almost like half the country is begging for more government intervention to protect them from their own dangerous ignorance.
    Science has shown that natural immunity is 20x more effective. Science has shown that only 1-5% of the infected will ever see the inside of a hospital.

    The fact that "half the country" is begging the government tells a lot about those people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    Science has shown that natural immunity is 20x more effective. Science has shown that only 1-5% of the infected will ever see the inside of a hospital.

    The fact that "half the country" is begging the government tells a lot about those people.

    You will be fine, mommas boy.
    Really curious about your source for this information. You don't cite it (of course), but it appears your referring to the 8/2021 Israeli study of their HMO database. This preprint study was found to be flawed on multiple accounts, one because their selection groups weren't were not given PCR tests to determine if they had gotten infected or not. Second, their study excluded folks who died from covid-19 infection.

    Tell me, how can you make a determinative argument that unvaccinated, previously infected individuals were less likely to get reinfected if you don't test for infection of all participants in your study group. Secondly, if you exclude from your study those unvaccinated who died of COVID-19 during the study time frame 1/2021 - 8/2021, that severely compromises the results.

    Citing the enclosed: https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/co...us-vaccination

    More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective antibodies
    Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity
    Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural immunity plus vaccination
    Lastly, you're missing the most obvious factor of them all. That people who claim to have had a covid-19 infection, without ever having been tested to confirm. "Pretty sure I've had it" is determinative of absolutely nothing.

    We know in the US there have been 43,750,000 confirmed covid-19 cases, of a population of approximately 331 million. That is a literal fuck ton of folks who there is literally no data to support a natural immunity theory on.

    So how about instead of basing your misguided ideas off of incomplete or flawed data from another country, you look to the private or public scientific health institutions that have been telling you you're dead wrong.

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    https://www.science.org/content/arti...-remains-vital

    "The study, conducted in one of the most highly COVID-19–vaccinated countries in the world, examined medical records of tens of thousands of Israelis, charting their infections, symptoms, and hospitalizations between 1 June and 14 August, when the Delta variant predominated in Israel. It’s the largest real-world observational study so far to compare natural and vaccine-induced immunity to SARS-CoV-2, according to its leaders."

    "The research impresses Nussenzweig and other scientists who have reviewed a preprint of the results, posted yesterday on medRxiv. “It’s a textbook example of how natural immunity is really better than vaccination,” says Charlotte Thålin, a physician and immunology researcher at Danderyd Hospital and the Karolinska Institute who studies the immune responses to SARS-CoV-2. “To my knowledge, it’s the first time [this] has really been shown in the context of COVID-19.”

    "The new analysis relies on the database of Maccabi Healthcare Services, which enrolls about 2.5 million Israelis. The study, led by Tal Patalon and Sivan Gazit at KSM, the system’s research and innovation arm, found in two analyses that never-infected people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus."

    Weird how that works. An actual study, with the most people to date, in one of the most highly infected areas in the world. Strange.

    Want to be ultra safe? Get Covid and have a shot. “And when you bolster that with one dose of vaccine, you take it to levels you can’t possibly match with any vaccine in the world right now.

    Even more interesting: "Nussenzweig’s group has published data showing people who recover from a SARS-CoV-2 infection continue to develop increasing numbers and types of coronavirus-targeting antibodies for up to 1 year. By contrast, he says, twice-vaccinated people stop seeing increases “in the potency or breadth of the overall memory antibody compartment” a few months after their second dose."

    So from the data again... I'd refer back to my earlier posts. Protect yourself and do what you think is best for you based on your personal physicians guidance, be cognizant of your surroundings, and be respectful of where you are and others wishes. That doesn't mean the Government should be limiting peoples freedoms, because technically... those that are vaccinated or have natural immunity (or both) are 99.8% protected from death or extreme reactions to reinfection. So be nice to your neighbors and stop being enforcers for the Government.
    Last edited by Shaps; 09-22-2021 at 05:12 PM.

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    Having read through the CDC linked paper... all honesty no wonder people are fucked up all over about what's what...

    Telling note: Their personal study... "We studied 72 persons"... Uhhhh...

    Hopefully they come out with version 2 of the shot, just like they do every year with the Flu vaccine.
    Last edited by Shaps; 09-22-2021 at 05:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Really curious about your source for this information. You don't cite it (of course), but it appears your referring to the 8/2021 Israeli study of their HMO database. This preprint study was found to be flawed on multiple accounts, one because their selection groups weren't were not given PCR tests to determine if they had gotten infected or not. Second, their study excluded folks who died from covid-19 infection.

    Tell me, how can you make a determinative argument that unvaccinated, previously infected individuals were less likely to get reinfected if you don't test for infection of all participants in your study group. Secondly, if you exclude from your study those unvaccinated who died of COVID-19 during the study time frame 1/2021 - 8/2021, that severely compromises the results.



    Lastly, you're missing the most obvious factor of them all. That people who claim to have had a covid-19 infection, without ever having been tested to confirm. "Pretty sure I've had it" is determinative of absolutely nothing.

    We know in the US there have been 43,750,000 confirmed covid-19 cases, of a population of approximately 331 million. That is a literal fuck ton of folks who there is literally no data to support a natural immunity theory on.

    So how about instead of basing your misguided ideas off of incomplete or flawed data from another country, you look to the private or public scientific health institutions that have been telling you you're dead wrong.
    I've had it twice and I'm fine.

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