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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlin View Post
    +1 DS and TD from 430, +1 CS to MnE circle compared to 75/101/127.

    Lose 1 CS from 127 to 125, due to the CS contribution being at .5 over 120, but also lose 1 CS to other circles from the thresholds being *7 due to 10% of post 67 spell ranks for secondary circle CS.
    But then you hit the threshold for other CS contribution in MnE, gaining the +1 to Wiz/MjE, but +2 to MnE, and gain the benefit of 430 not being capped (maxes out at 100).

    Why you may not want to do this is scaling on 925/917. But, I'm not sure if we have a known impact on the effectiveness of those... and even if we did have an equation, would the +2 at over 120 materially impede their effectiveness.
    CRAP!!!! Here I thought I knew what my plan was and then in swoops Whirlin and MATH!!!! My capped pure is still a ways from having to worry about it, but from what you are suggesting Whirlin then it might be best to go 101/101/101 since it provides a pretty significant boost to TD, which my wizard at least always seems to struggle a little with.

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    My old capped mage had 101/101/101 and I liked it... but that was before updates to 917. 917 hits like a truck if you are over-trained in 900s, and between that and enchanting it seems like you might be lacking as a 101/101/101 build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kutter View Post
    CRAP!!!! Here I thought I knew what my plan was and then in swoops Whirlin and MATH!!!! My capped pure is still a ways from having to worry about it, but from what you are suggesting Whirlin then it might be best to go 101/101/101 since it provides a pretty significant boost to TD, which my wizard at least always seems to struggle a little with.
    That's up to you. Training always has some subjectivity.

    However, the big reason it works out is that you're hitting a threshold of *7 in MnE, which makes up for the CS losses associated with WIZ, because your at 120+ ranks in WIZ. Since the CS contribution for 100-120 is .75, the tradeoff becomes more significant. So you will be giving up more potency as you approach 100 to hit the same TD gains. If you wanted to go for 101/121/81 or something, that would work too, just a few CS loss, but minimal TD gains.

    But wait... Why are we talking CS for Wiz circle?
    While 912, 917, 925 have benefits over 1x, I'm not aware of any post-100 scaling equations to use to determine it's post 100 effectiveness, so in absence of defined benefits, I leverage CS is a reasonable substitute. Given Simu leveraging things multiple times rather than always reinventing the wheel, it's not necessarily a bad assumption, but is an assumption nonetheless.
    Plus 915 is a fun disabler... hit with 917 915 519 to super disable a critter. Did that on some waves of Duskruin when there were high DS mobs.


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