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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Nope, but that wasn’t what the conversation was about.
    It was about the last time Russians and Americans met on the ground.
    They did meet in the ground. The guy saw the US Flags raise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    The guys on the ground directed the air. That is pretty much how a conventional ground engagement with US Forces goes.
    When I think of meeting on the ground, I’m thinking of ground troops in combat, not calling in air and artillery strikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    They did meet in the ground. The guy saw the US Flags raise.
    The guy specifically said at the end... no American foot soldiers.
    I guess our definition of ground combat is a little different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    The guy specifically said at the end... no American foot soldiers.
    I guess our definition of ground combat is a little different.
    They were struck by artillery too. It wasn't all air. He mentioned arty. That is ground forces.

    And I didn't say "Ground combat" I said "met on the ground". Their ground forces met our ground forces and our ground forces called for Arty and Air and obliterated them without ever needing to engage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    They were struck by artillery too. It wasn't all air. He mentioned arty. That is ground forces.
    I think ground means, troops marching forward, shooting their guns etc etc. not calling in artillery strikes.
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    From what I found, about ground combat

    modern ground combat involves moving lots of men and equipment across hundreds of miles on relatively tight timelines and on extremely poor infrastructure. The importance of the coordinated logistics necessary to bring the right assets to bear in order to build the right level of combat power at the center of gravity for a particular operation cannot be overstated. As the Commandant of the Marine Corps once noted:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    From what I found, about ground combat

    modern ground combat involves moving lots of men and equipment across hundreds of miles on relatively tight timelines and on extremely poor infrastructure. The importance of the coordinated logistics necessary to bring the right assets to bear in order to build the right level of combat power at the center of gravity for a particular operation cannot be overstated. As the Commandant of the Marine Corps once noted:
    Artillery is one of the deadliest components of ground combat. They aren’t called King of Battle for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Artillery is one of the deadliest components of ground combat. They aren’t called King of Battle for nothing.
    Fuck artillery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astray View Post
    Fuck artillery.
    Shartillery > artillery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astray View Post
    Fuck artillery.
    Shit, I'd rather have it than not.
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