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  1. Default Fixskilling a 39 empath from warpath to pure

    About to use a fix skill, and covert from Warpath to pure.

    This emapth will be a hunter using a runestaff, not sitting in TSC healing. He will also be used to heal my alts, and provide decent mana bread.


    Here are stats.


    Strength (STR): 67 (8) ... 67 (8)
    Constitution (CON): 82 (16) ... 82 (16)
    Dexterity (DEX): 64 (12) ... 64 (12)
    Agility (AGI): 71 (20) ... 71 (20)
    Discipline (DIS): 76 (8) ... 76 (8)
    Aura (AUR): 82 (16) ... 82 (16)
    Logic (LOG): 78 (14) ... 78 (14)
    Intuition (INT): 67 (8) ... 67 (8)
    Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
    Influence (INF): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)


    Current skill set up
    Armor Use..........................| 90 20
    Shield Use.........................| 140 40
    Combat Maneuvers...................| 128 34
    Edged Weapons......................| 140 40
    Physical Fitness...................| 126 33
    Magic Item Use.....................| 30 6
    Harness Power......................| 150 50
    Elemental Mana Control.............| 86 19
    Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 134 37
    Perception.........................| 30 6
    Climbing...........................| 70 15
    Swimming...........................| 20 4




    What I'm thinking about changing to.


    Armor Use 8
    Physical fitness 54
    Arcane Symbol 39
    Magic Item 39
    Harness Power 55
    Mana control:spirt 39
    Blessing lore 33
    Transformation lore 30
    Climbing 15
    Swiming 15
    Perception 39
    First Aid 79

    Major Spirt spells 25
    Minor Spirt 21
    Empath spells 60


    Any input would be appreciated. Lores seems pretty complex for an empath lots of good options.

    How to the stats look? Do I need to use a fix stat or are they good enough.

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    Seems a bit chaotic for my taste. Some thoughts:
    1) Technically 1x is (level + 1), so you should be at 40 ranks of anything that fits that bill. For a pure, that generally means MIU, AS, Mana control, lore, and HP. On that note, HP is a bit odd in that it has diminishing returns beyond (level) ranks, so "1x" for HP is usually just at level to get the 3 mana/rank. Anything beyond that is only 1 mana per rank.
    2) PF seems high, I'd stick this to 1x. Perception at 1x is solid
    3) First aid seems high to me. 1x if you think it brings value I guess. Possibly doing for skinning, in which case maybe full 2x (80 ranks)
    4) Armor, swim/climb look on point.
    5) Spells look solid
    6) Stats are workable, no need to fixstat until cap IMO

    Based on all that, I would expect something like:
    Armor Use 8
    Physical fitness 40
    Arcane Symbol 40
    Magic Item 40
    Harness Power 39
    Mana control:spirt 40
    Blessing lore 33
    Transformation lore 7
    Climbing 15
    Swiming 15
    Perception 40
    First Aid 40

    Major Spirt spells 25
    Minor Spirt 21
    Empath spells 60

    I would expect this would leave you a fair amount of free TPs, which you could put back into lore or back into HP if you're really hurting for mana. Additionally, pumping into more spells round out the circles (eg 130). Sounds like you'll generally be hunting with your other characters, which makes mana a lot less scarce in my experience. Or, just hold onto some points until you give it a go and get a feel for what you feel might be lacking.

    Just my 2 cents. Hope some of it is helpful.

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    Thanks for the feedback Izzy.

    I had PF at 2x, becuase 2 out of 3 of the empaths types on the wiki guide have it at 2X. I wasn't really sure why that was the case. I figured it had to do with being able to heal blood loss better, one of my characters he will be healing is a giantman and has lots of HP.

    I was thinking I would need the extra mana, but I think when I'll make the fix skill I'll leave it at 1x HP and if feel like I need the mana I can put in HP other wise add to lores.

    I was going to 2x in FA for skinning, I thought bone shatter didn't damage skins so it seems like that would be helpful and it's cheap.

    I had the lores set to specific thresholds I wanted to receive, and then figured I could decide if I should keep training them or start getting other lores.

    What is the reasoning for dropping transformation lore from 30 -7?

    For now I will be hunting by myself but will be spelled up by a ranger, wiz, and sorc.

    Looking forward to getting a big bump to my CS from this change. Hunting empaths seem pretty bad ass.
    Last edited by Lucktar; 12-18-2019 at 10:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucktar View Post
    Thanks for the feedback Izzy.

    I had PF at 2x, becuase 2 out of 3 of the empaths types on the wiki guide have it at 2X. I wasn't really sure why that was the case. I figured it had to do with being able to heal blood loss better, one of my characters he will be healing is a giantman and has lots of HP.

    I was thinking I would need the extra mana, but I think when I'll make the fix skill I'll leave it at 1x HP and if feel like I need the mana I can put in HP other wise add to lores.

    I was going to 2x in FA for skinning, I thought bone shatter didn't damage skins so it seems like that would be helpful and it's cheap.

    I had the lores set to specific thresholds I wanted to receive, and then figured I could decide if I should keep training them or start getting other lores.

    What is the reasoning for dropping transformation lore from 30 -7?

    For now I will be hunting by myself but will be spelled up by a ranger, wiz, and sorc.

    Looking forward to getting a big bump to my CS from this change. Hunting empaths seem pretty bad ass.
    I dropped transformation lore because I was mistakenly thinking it was in the spirit sphere, and therefore bringing you above 1x spirit lores. But it's definitely mental. Keep your lore where you had it.

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    You'll be relying on bone shatter to hunt at this level, so it would be best to absolutely maximize your CS at the expense of anything else. That means keeping your major and minor spirit at 2/3 of level (rounded up), as well. I would pull points from lores to raise those both to 26 ranks and keep empath at level +21.

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    ok excellent suggestion.

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    Here is what I ended up with.

    Got a boost of 26 to my CS. I bypassed around 3 hunting areas!

    Thanks for the help everyone.



    Olendhay (at level 40), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
    Skill Name | Current Current
    | Bonus Ranks
    Armor Use..........................| 40 8
    Physical Fitness...................| 143 43
    Arcane Symbols.....................| 140 40
    Magic Item Use.....................| 140 40
    Harness Power......................| 140 40
    Spirit Mana Control................| 140 40
    Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 138 39
    Mental Lore - Transference.........| 74 16
    Perception.........................| 140 40
    Climbing...........................| 70 15
    Swimming...........................| 74 16
    First Aid..........................| 180 80

    Spell Lists
    Major Spiritual....................| 26

    Spell Lists
    Minor Spiritual....................| 26

    Spell Lists
    Empath.............................| 61

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    Looks good but are you sure you meant to train Transference lore? Its only use for empaths is to take scars from people (50 ranks) and maybe imprint or something IDK because I don't bother with imprint.

    Transformation is the lore that lowers your healing/scar healing RT, which most empaths prioritize way before transference (if they ever train in transference)

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    holy crap I did exactly that, I meant transference!

    Wonder if GM would fix that for me, doesn't hurt to ask I guess.
    Last edited by Lucktar; 12-18-2019 at 05:27 PM.

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    Lol glad to know I'm not the only one who has done something like this
    The only rude person I met was a taxi driver in kagoshima. I was going from the train station to the ferry to take it over to an island and was showing him my papers and he was like "oh, climb mountain?" and I'm like "hai, yep!" and he made a muscle pose(bent arm, whatever you call it) laughed, and rubbed my belly.. like "oh, no, you fat american fuck, you no get up there", but whatever - Japhrimel

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