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    Default Some arguments against legalization

    So this guy has a book with piles of evidence from scientific studies and real data on the use and abuse of Marijuana and it's link to psychosis and violent crime. This is an article with a kind of summary:

    https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/marij...ness-violence/

    And here are two very important points that he brings up:

    Over the last 30 years, psychiatrists and epidemiologists have turned speculation about marijuana’s dangers into science. Yet over the same period, a shrewd and expensive lobbying campaign has pushed public attitudes about marijuana the other way. And the effects are now becoming apparent.

    Almost everything you think you know about the health effects of cannabis, almost everything advocates and the media have told you for a generation, is wrong.
    and

    Cannabis users today are also consuming a drug that is far more potent than ever before, as measured by the amount of THC—delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, the chemical in cannabis responsible for its psychoactive effects—it contains. In the 1970s, the last time this many Americans used cannabis, most marijuana contained less than two percent THC. Today, marijuana routinely contains 20 to 25 percent THC, thanks to sophisticated farming and cloning techniques—as well as to a demand by users for cannabis that produces a stronger high more quickly. In states where cannabis is legal, many users prefer extracts that are nearly pure THC. Think of the difference between near-beer and a martini, or even grain alcohol, to understand the difference.
    You can think what you want and insult me until the cows come home. What you think you know is likely wrong, it isn't harmless and it does cause problems. While the movie Reefer Madness from back in the day has been ridiculed and discredited it seems that a lot of it's claims, while sensationalized, are proving to be accurate to one degree or another.
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    I think they should legalize every illicit drug. I'm betting more people have died in the "war on drugs" than from the actual drugs themselves.
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    ok boomer
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    There have been very few significant studies of marijuana for the last 50 years, because of the controlled substances act of 1970.

    The "piles of evidence" you reference, likely don't exist.
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    and I'm also for legalizing everything.

    I'm just stating fact that real, clinical lab analysis, is exceptionally rare regards marijuana. It's incredibly difficult to pass all the bars required to even do a study. It's a schedule 1 drug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage View Post
    and I'm also for legalizing everything.

    I'm just stating fact that real, clinical lab analysis, is exceptionally rare regards marijuana. It's incredibly difficult to pass all the bars required to even do a study. It's a schedule 1 drug.
    So, you believe they should legalize:

    Ecstacy?
    Heroin?
    LSD?
    Cocaine?
    Methamphetamine?
    Crack?
    Fetanyl?
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    I have seen marijuana ruin lives by basically putting a person's ambition in a pause mode that never ends. It makes no sense to me to legalize it (except for medical purposes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    So, you believe they should legalize:

    Ecstacy?
    Heroin?
    LSD?
    Cocaine?
    Methamphetamine?
    Crack?
    Fetanyl?
    Yep, all of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    So, you believe they should legalize:

    Ecstacy?
    Heroin?
    LSD?
    Cocaine?
    Methamphetamine?
    Crack?
    Fetanyl?
    This is America. We value freedoms. Legalize all that shit. I bet our Southern border becomes more stable. Shit can have warning labels on it and be sold from responsible vendors. Taxes on it can pay for treatments and many other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candor View Post
    I have seen marijuana ruin lives by basically putting a person's ambition in a pause mode that never ends. It makes no sense to me to legalize it (except for medical purposes).
    Those people were probably going to be losers anyway.

    You can cite just as many 'I knew a guy' stories like that but about beer/vodka/whatever. If alcohol is legal, something that grows out of the ground absolutely should be. And I don't even use it, personally, I just think it's wild that it's a schedule 1 controlled substance.

    If we didn't have private prisons who profit on a per-prisoner basis, and if drug manufacturer lobbyists didn't exist, we'd probably make progress toward legalizing.

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