My goodbye forever rant

[Stanley Burrell]

Oh.

[Stanley Burrell]

Wait.

• You say, "We were encouraged to experiment on old previously unenchantable items."

..!? Dude, if I was told to specifically experiment on previously unenchantable item(s) then … *cranium asplodes.* But if you are profiting from it in some way that violated Policy 7 then that might not be good. I feel like … I have no effin' clue as to whether or not your fellow peepz who you were handing the items back to were walking around with 12x McGrail claidhmores.

[Tgo01]

Oh god. I don't know if Allereli is still around actually.

Allereli left? That's a shame. She could be annoying but I think she always meant well when it came to the game.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Allereli left? That's a shame. She could be annoying but I think she always meant well when it came to the game.

Why do I think of that name as a man who played a woman and was a total asshole? Is the name similar to someone else?

[Taernath]

She is still around, just maybe not on the wiki.

[Tgo01]

On the one hand I don't like the excuse "you should have known better."

I've been playing this game on and off for almost 30 years now and there is still A LOT I don't know about this game. The idea that I have to know everything about the game is crazy.

On the other hand why was this only being discussed on a private Discord server? I would imagine something this major would have been mentioned on the official Discord, or the official forums, or heck even on the PC.

On the third hand I'm kind of disappointed that the "evidence" they supposedly found was on a private Discord server of people apparently...discussing things?

This is why I'm skeptical of what Simu is saying without knowing what evidence they have.

Were people on this Discord server just like...talking about this shit being enchantable now? That hardly screams "We know this is a bug and we're going to exploit it! ROFL!" And no using the lame argument of "Well they SHOULD HAVE KNOWN" isn't going to cut it.

But honestly, assuming the logs we have seen so far are real (and I have no reason to believe the people who posted them would edit the logs) it sure does sound like their "proof" is that people enchanted multiple things and they should have known those things aren't enchantable. That is to say Simu saying people knew it was a bug and rushed to exploit it as much as possible before it was fixed sounds like bullshit.

But on the fourth hand maybe some of the more innocent people just got caught up in all of this and there really were bad actors exploiting this as much as possible with enchanting dozens of things and Simu decided to cast a wide net to be sure they got everyone.

[Tgo01]

Why do I think of that name as a man who played a woman and was a total asshole? Is the name similar to someone else?

I suppose it could be a man in real life but I never heard anything about that.

[Taernath]

On the third hand I'm kind of disappointed that the "evidence" they supposedly found was on a private Discord server of people apparently...discussing things?

This is why I'm skeptical of what Simu is saying without knowing what evidence they have.

Were people on this Discord server just like...talking about this shit being enchantable now? That hardly screams "We know this is a bug and we're going to exploit it! ROFL!" And no using the lame argument of "Well they SHOULD HAVE KNOWN" isn't going to cut it.

But honestly, assuming the logs we have seen so far are real (and I have no reason to believe the people who posted them would edit the logs) it sure does sound like their "proof" is that people enchanted multiple things and they should have known those things aren't enchantable. That is to say Simu saying people knew it was a bug and rushed to exploit it as much as possible before it was fixed sounds like bullshit.

But on the fourth hand maybe some of the more innocent people just got caught up in all of this and there really were bad actors exploiting this as much as possible with enchanting dozens of things and Simu decided to cast a wide net to be sure they got everyone.

I get the impression some of them let slip on the discord that they believed it was a bug, forgetting that GMs are members of HotArd and can read the discord, too. There were certainly lots of coraesine/otherwise unenchantable sales and enchants done recently. What, 4 or 5 from this thread alone? They track that shit.

[Winter]

Did they ever actually say coraesine shouldn't be enchantable when the changes went live? Because I wouldn't have had a fucking clue.

I wouldn't have either, and the first time I'd even heard of krodera was after reading the discoord log about it a few days ago. To assume that most players should know about XYZ however long they've been playing is very very out of touch. I've been playing GS on and off since 1999 and genuinely don't understand the majority stuff that's released in this game almost everything is so needlessly complicated. Honestly half the stuff that's posted by GMs on the officials is gibberish unless you've done your own research, it's also part of the reason why I've stuck to mainly playing one class.

[Rjex]

I wouldn't have either, and the first time I'd even heard of krodera was after reading the discoord log about it a few days ago. To assume that most players should know about XYZ however long they've been playing is very very out of touch. I've been playing GS on and off since 1999 and genuinely don't understand the majority stuff that's released in this game almost everything is so needlessly complicated. Honestly half the stuff that's posted by GMs on the officials is gibberish unless you've done your own research, it's also part of the reason why I've stuck to mainly playing one class.

This is exactly it. I enchanted Cor (partially) for someone but I had no fucking idea it wasn't supposed to be enchant-able. How the hell are you supposed to know that? No warning so far but I'd be pretty livid if I received one on account of their incompetence.