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    Not really an appraisal, but I have been wondering how wizards are planning on pricing enchanting under the new system....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing View Post
    Not really an appraisal, but I have been wondering how wizards are planning on pricing enchanting under the new system....
    They are going to try to anchor it to sorcerer pricing per week. At 3m per they are literally saying it's going to cost someone roughly around 168m to go from 0x to 10x. Way overpriced.

    A few wizards are already trying to form a cartel on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortybox View Post
    They are going to try to anchor it to sorcerer pricing per week. At 3m per they are literally saying it's going to cost someone roughly around 168m to go from 0x to 10x. Way overpriced.

    A few wizards are already trying to form a cartel on it.
    Placing myself under the new enchanting requirements, my prices would definitely be going up. This change actually has me considering opening my wizard account until Classic is released.

    I still need to run the numbers to see if it would be worth my time, not knowing how much hunting a week it would take to get my weekly cap at level 55. Even if it's within reason I don't even know if I would sell the service or continue to build the mattock I had been working on.

    I can say with 15+ years of working with enchanting, the service cost is going to go way up now considering it requires much more work. One also has to take into account that silvers are worth nearly 300% less than they were when I cashed out the majority of capitol I had gained in my GS history.

    The extremely poor roll out of the new enchanting changes has kept me from clicking the "Submit Payment" button. I need some real numbers here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    I can say with 15+ years of working with enchanting, the service cost is going to go way up now considering it requires much more work. One also has to take into account that silvers are worth nearly 300% less than they were when I cashed out the majority of capitol I had gained in my GS history.
    Your enchanting costs are going up because you have to.. script hunt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Your enchanting costs are going up because you have to.. script hunt?
    Script hunt or not, I would still be dedicating resources to a character I would otherwise not be focusing on.

    The cost for enchanting went up for the character owner with this change.

    Old enchanting cost = time invested to reach x level

    New enchanting cost = time invested to reach x level + time invested to gather enchanting energy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    Script hunt or not, I would still be dedicating resources to a character I would otherwise not be focusing on.

    The cost for enchanting went up for the character owner with this change.

    Old enchanting cost = time invested to reach x level

    New enchanting cost = time invested to reach x level + time invested to gather enchanting energy.
    Sweet - that means all my armor and weapons went up in price and silvers will be cheaper per million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    Script hunt or not, I would still be dedicating resources to a character I would otherwise not be focusing on.

    The cost for enchanting went up for the character owner with this change.

    Old enchanting cost = time invested to reach x level

    New enchanting cost = time invested to reach x level + time invested to gather enchanting energy.
    Your math is shockingly representative of the Bush administration. Time invested to reach what exactly, the result of this formula? If it's time needed to gather the enchanting energy, well you've doubled up on your variables. If it's time invested to cast 925, then you're going to be making about nothing.

    Why not level x enchanting energy needed + (hours invested to gather energy x n silvers). n is your going rate, say 1m, 5m, 10m silvers. Personally, I'd err on the middle of that spectrum as hunting benefits the character in the long run and lets face it, you're going to be reading a book or knitting a pair of socks while a script does all the work for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortybox View Post
    They are going to try to anchor it to sorcerer pricing per week. At 3m per they are literally saying it's going to cost someone roughly around 168m to go from 0x to 10x. Way overpriced.

    A few wizards are already trying to form a cartel on it.
    I love how people keep citing 0x to 10x as if that's a relevant watermark. In the far more likely scenario you're taking something from 0 to 7x, it would cost ~33m which is right on par with taking an item to T5 ensorcell. The even more likely 4x - 7x is roughly the same (31.5m).

    Previous speed enchants were what, 20m for a 7x? Even if you ignore the 5x jump, the 6x speed enchant is valued at least at 10m in the old system so it's basically the same cost people were paying before. Stop talking about 8-10x so you sound slightly less wrong. None of this is even accounting for the increased demand that will arise from 1) not having to surrender an item for 6 months and 2) being able to enchant previously impossible things.

    I have more than enough personal projects to keep my energy locked up for years, I have no skin in the game but it's asinine to bring up the 8x+ brackets for the general market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donquix View Post
    I have more than enough personal projects to keep my energy locked up for years
    This is also going to play a big factor. I have the elven brig from hunt for history, this now has the promise of becoming some extremely valuable armor without having to chase merchants.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    This is also going to play a big factor. I have the elven brig from hunt for history, this now has the promise of becoming some extremely valuable armor without having to chase merchants.
    I play a lot of alts, i've never sold an enchant as I'm always working up something so nothing new there. But the other side of the coin is I have to assume there are going to be some wizards who never wanted to bother with enchanting for others because it's a pain in the ass to track people down for months at a time. Now it can be like sorcell, got juice big bang boom enjoy your +13 imflass broadsword.
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