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    Quote Originally Posted by Roiken View Post
    a Warrior doing puncture protection is a great utility for me!


    I've never done a UAC bard... but I've hunted with one only around level 35-40 she did okay(dunno the flare rate).. but my THW user was the cause of most death..
    If they did not train directly into Tonis (1035), then their bard UAC is going to be lame compared to THW or polearm combat. However, it is viable at 35 to train Tonis as a UAC bard (assuming you can find a way to compensate for the mana cost - which Voln does well), but not as viable to do with other weapon styles because the AS boost from 425 is subjectively more useful than flying straight to Tonis.

    Once you get to 75 ranks of air lore, and have UAC on 1s RT for all attacks (except for aimed kicks), then everything is dead fast. Plus, you can do a 5 strike UAC attack in like 3s RT with mstrike.

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    I definitely see the upside and potential.. but I'm in a if it is not broke don't fix it stage with my pole arm bards.. It will be something I look forward to in may, by that point I should be around 50.. but still feel like i'll need a mana battery of some sort. On topic though my gloves and boots only have unbalance flares which is fairly helpful for kicking

  3. #33

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    Like most bard options, UAC bards are meh until the mid to upper levels. But once you can rock that 75 air lore, really starts to shine (with it still being pretty good at having 1035 + 30 ranks of air lore + all other core skills)

    did they ever say 1212 was going to be done by end of 2018? I thought estild just said it was "half done", except the "half" done part was only the fluff feature appearance, and the other half was you know...all the actual functional things (i.e. racial trading bonus) so calling that half done seemed like saying a meal was "half done" because you made a shopping list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donquix View Post
    Like most bard options, UAC bards are meh until the mid to upper levels. But once you can rock that 75 air lore, really starts to shine (with it still being pretty good at having 1035 + 30 ranks of air lore + all other core skills)

    did they ever say 1212 was going to be done by end of 2018? I thought estild just said it was "half done", except the "half" done part was only the fluff feature appearance, and the other half was you know...all the actual functional things (i.e. racial trading bonus) so calling that half done seemed like saying a meal was "half done" because you made a shopping list.
    At one point Estild said that he was going to have 1206 and 1212 done by the end of the year, yeah. It was back in maybe early to mid October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donquix View Post
    Like most bard options, UAC bards are meh until the mid to upper levels. But once you can rock that 75 air lore, really starts to shine (with it still being pretty good at having 1035 + 30 ranks of air lore + all other core skills)

    did they ever say 1212 was going to be done by end of 2018? I thought estild just said it was "half done", except the "half" done part was only the fluff feature appearance, and the other half was you know...all the actual functional things (i.e. racial trading bonus) so calling that half done seemed like saying a meal was "half done" because you made a shopping list.
    You guys think they’ll ever nerf 1035? How bad will the fallout be? I never played a bard.

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    I don't think a fall out would be that big.. quite a few bards have gone pure completely and only use tonis as a utility to help their partners. While not needing it at all for solo hunting(at cap)

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    Don't think there's any real reason to nerf it. For bards that use it, it's more of a replacement for the options other professions take. Sort of a substitute mstrike, mostly. You probably spend as many TPs min/maxing your tonis stuff as you would getting your mstrike up to a comparable level on another profession, and the end result is about the same. I just found it particularly powerful because I -had- all the mstrike already and it got really nuts. Edit to add: If there were a nerf, that would probably be it. Nerfing its ability to be cast on others, to prevent 190 mstrike ranked people from kicking 7 times in 3 seconds.
    Last edited by Stumplicker; 01-11-2019 at 03:10 PM.

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    1030 nerf would have way more fallout than 1035 probably

    They won't nerf either

    Too much of the staff has bard mains from what I have heard

    edit: also spellsong code is like the deepest darkest voodoo from the shadowrealm and nobody wants to mess with it, also see COL
    Last edited by audioserf; 01-11-2019 at 03:12 PM.

  9. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roiken View Post
    I definitely see the upside and potential.. but I'm in a if it is not broke don't fix it stage with my pole arm bards.. It will be something I look forward to in may, by that point I should be around 50.. but still feel like i'll need a mana battery of some sort. On topic though my gloves and boots only have unbalance flares which is fairly helpful for kicking
    You definitely need a mana option, and that was why I went Voln with my bard (though if you had a higher stamina race w/ a few enhancives - GoS would work too). Having 50 mana every 5 minutes, and using my mana for nothing else except renewing songs, was sufficient to keep tonis going about 70% of a hunt at level 35. Once you get to level 50, you can add more songs to the list of buffs - and now he's 58 running, 1003, 1006, 1007, 1010, 1012, 1014, 1018, 1019 and casts Tonis before combat (not keeping it going at all times). I haven't needed to rely on my other spells, so I'm really just using the mana for tonis and renewals.

    Less Tonis is more like 1005, kill target - but that got boring for me. I feel like the quick attacks are more "exciting" and offers a lot of opportunity for sonic flares (sonic cestus)! I've been seeing a lot of back-to-back flares and even had the cestus flare 3x in a row just a few minutes ago.

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    Sorry for the basic question but I'm not understanding the setup here.

    Does the bard have flaring UAC gloves while singing a sonic weapon (cestus I'd imagine)?

    Assuming that's right will they have two weapons or a sonic and a shield?
    Also are they using the UAC commands (punch,jab,grapple) or are they using "attack"?

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