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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    The story just gets weirder and weirder. Usually there is a simple explanation in these types of stories; gang shooting that hit an innocent bystander, crazy stalker, something of that nature.

    The story just got even weirder. The driver of the car who did the shooting is now claiming on Saturday they got into an argument with someone at a club and the next day the car they shot looked similar to the car of the person they got into an argument with and that's why they shot it. Like really? They don't pull up to see who's driving the car or who is in it, they don't make sure 100% it's the same car. They just see a similar looking car and open fire because they got into an argument the day before?

    The suspected shooter has apparently plead the 5th and refused to talk at all. Speaking of refusing to speak to the police, WHY IS THE DRIVER TELLING THE POLICE EVERYTHING? He told them he was the driver, he told them the name of the shooter, he told them the gun was at his house, he actually gave them written permission to search his house for the gun, he told them the motive. Only possibilities I can come up with is he's incredibly stupid, he thinks for some reason he'll get a lighter sentence if he confesses everything, or the guilt is getting to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    It's such a strange and odd case.
    It really isn't.
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    Because he wasn't alone in the car and the other dude is talking to save his hide.
    Khaladon starts to turn the crystal knob, but stops with a frightened look on his face. He begins shaking uncontrollably and flies across the room, as though by some invisible force.

    **SPLAT!!** Khaladon careens off the far wall, slides down the smooth wood panelling and collapses into a quivering heap on the floor, with only his dignity bruised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taernath View Post
    It really isn't.
    It is.

    Witnesses said it was a white man in his 40's with a beard.
    Mother and daughter said it was a white man in his 30's with no beard.
    All of them fingered the red truck without suggesting the possibility it was the other car at the scene.
    In one interview the mother says she looked into the shooters eyes and knew something was wrong with him, in a different interview she says she didn't see anything and her daughter saw it.
    An anonymous tip comes in and says the shooters were two black dudes and not a white guy, this surprises everyone, even the family.
    Driver tells police literally everything, including stating he has the gun in his apartment and gives the police written permission to search his apartment for the gun. Driver's stated motive is they saw a car that looked similar to the car of someone they got into an argument with the day before so they shot it without ever looking to see who was in the car and he didn't even realize it was the wrong car until he saw the news of the shooting the next day.

    This is anything but a normal and standard drive by shooting case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ardwen View Post
    Because he wasn't alone in the car and the other dude is talking to save his hide.
    But he's not. The guy would need some sort of agreement or plea deal with the prosecutors to save his hide, from what I understand no such deal is in place meaning this guy will most likely go to jail for a very long time, possibly life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    It is.

    Witnesses said it was a white man in his 40's with a beard.
    Mother and daughter said it was a white man in his 30's with no beard.
    All of them fingered the red truck without suggesting the possibility it was the other car at the scene.
    In one interview the mother says she looked into the shooters eyes and knew something was wrong with him, in a different interview she says she didn't see anything and her daughter saw it.
    An anonymous tip comes in and says the shooters were two black dudes and not a white guy, this surprises everyone, even the family.
    Driver tells police literally everything. Driver's stated motive is they saw a car that looked similar the car of someone they got into an argument with the day before so they shot it without ever looking to see who was in the car and he didn't even realize it was the wrong car until he saw the news of the shooting the next day.

    This is anything but a normal and standard drive by shooting case.
    No, it is a standard case of mistaken identity. One person was firm on the red truck and the other people identified it based on suggestion. It happens all the time. That is typically why you interview people several times separately and don't let them talk to each other. The two shooter and the driver probably bragged about it to their boys and the anonymous tip was probably someone that heard them and saw it on the news. The driver is singing because he doesn't want to go down as the murderer. What is so hard for you to grasp here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardwen View Post
    Because he wasn't alone in the car and the other dude is talking to save his hide.
    Confirmed Ardwen is the shooter.
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    Even without a deal, the non shooter talking will frequently get them a more lenient sentence. Plus do these two seem like the brightest people out there?
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    **SPLAT!!** Khaladon careens off the far wall, slides down the smooth wood panelling and collapses into a quivering heap on the floor, with only his dignity bruised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    It is.

    Witnesses said it was a white man in his 40's with a beard.
    Mother and daughter said it was a white man in his 30's with no beard.
    All of them fingered the red truck without suggesting the possibility it was the other car at the scene.
    In one interview the mother says she looked into the shooters eyes and knew something was wrong with him, in a different interview she says she didn't see anything and her daughter saw it.
    An anonymous tip comes in and says the shooters were two black dudes and not a white guy, this surprises everyone, even the family.
    Driver tells police literally everything, including stating he has the gun in his apartment and gives the police written permission to search his apartment for the gun. Driver's stated motive is they saw a car that looked similar to the car of someone they got into an argument with the day before so they shot it without ever looking to see who was in the car and he didn't even realize it was the wrong car until he saw the news of the shooting the next day.

    This is anything but a normal and standard drive by shooting case.
    Eyewitnesses are extremely unreliable. You could have 5 people watch the same event and have 5 different statements, then get different ones later if you ask again when everyone's had time to calm down and process or forget stuff.

    The driver is apparently rolling over on the shooter. They are both really, really dumb. Nothing surprising there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    The driver is singing because he doesn't want to go down as the murderer.
    In Texas an accessory to murder can also be charged with murder, the penalty of which includes the possibility of the death penalty. The driver has already been charged with this crime.

    Also I could understand the theory that the witnesses all jumped on the red truck bandwagon because it's what other people were saying, but that doesn't explain how they all could identify the driver when it was dark out. Why were they all checking out what they thought at the time was some random person, it's doubtful they got a good look at him as he was apparently speeding away as soon as he heard the gunshots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ardwen View Post
    Even without a deal, the non shooter talking will frequently get them a more lenient sentence.
    He's already been charged with capital murder, the most severe crime he can be charged with in Texas.
    Last edited by Tgo01; 01-07-2019 at 04:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taernath View Post
    Eyewitnesses are extremely unreliable. You could have 5 people watch the same event and have 5 different statements, then get different ones later if you ask again when everyone's had time to calm down and process or forget stuff.
    Or you get nothing.

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