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    My F2P ranger is about to hit level 20. I've been messing around with the stat cruncher trying to find a middle ground between growth and F2P limitations. Level goal is at least 30, maybe higher. Heres my current stats and skills. Any help or input is appreciated.

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    Level 0 Stats for Chad, Burghal Gnome Ranger
    
        Strength (STR): 95
    Constitution (CON): 70
       Dexterity (DEX): 85
         Agility (AGI): 90
      Discipline (DIS): 70
            Aura (AUR): 60
           Logic (LOG): 90
       Intuition (INT): 30
          Wisdom (WIS): 50
       Influence (INF): 20
    
    Name: Chad Race: Burghal Gnome  Profession: Ranger (not shown)
    Gender: Male    Age: 0    Expr: 460966    Level:  19
                      Normal (Bonus)  ...  Enhanced (Bonus)
        Strength (STR):    99 (9)     ...   99 (9)
    Constitution (CON):    76 (23)    ...   76 (23)
       Dexterity (DEX):    94 (32)    ...   94 (32)
         Agility (AGI):    95 (32)    ...   95 (32)
      Discipline (DIS):    74 (7)     ...   74 (7)
            Aura (AUR):    64 (12)    ...   64 (12)
           Logic (LOG):    94 (32)    ...   94 (32)
       Intuition (INT):    49 (5)     ...   49 (5)
          Wisdom (WIS):    59 (4)     ...   59 (4)
       Influence (INF):    29 (-15)   ...   29 (-15)
    Mana:  46   Silver: 0
    
    Chad (at level 19), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
      Skill Name                         | Current Current
                                         |   Bonus   Ranks
      Two Weapon Combat..................|       5       1
      Armor Use..........................|     111      27
      Combat Maneuvers...................|      86      19
      Brawling...........................|     142      42
      Ambush.............................|      86      19
      Physical Fitness...................|      86      19
      Dodging............................|      86      19
      Harness Power......................|      82      18
      Survival...........................|      86      19
      Stalking and Hiding................|     138      39
      Perception.........................|      86      19
      Climbing...........................|      50      10
      First Aid..........................|      86      19
    
    Spell Lists
      Minor Spiritual....................|               1
    
    Spell Lists
      Ranger.............................|              19
    Training Points: 17 Phy 0 Mnt (30 Phy converted to Mnt)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerek View Post
    How well does UAC/brawling work with ambushing?
    Amazingly well. Ranger is level 19, warcats are ~20.

    You leap from hiding to strike!
    You make a precise attempt to punch a striped warcat!
    You have good positioning against a striped warcat.
    UAF: 161 vs UDF: 103 = 1.563 * MM: 98 + d100: 21 = 174
    ... and hit for 54 points of damage!
    Palm strike to face drives nose straight into brain!
    The striped warcat crumples to the ground and dies.

    ** Necrotic energy from your padded suede gloves overflows into you! **

    You feel energized!
    Roundtime: 4 sec.

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    Best way to tier up is ambushing

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    After way to long messing around with stats, I think I've settled on these:

    Level 0 Stats for Chad, Burghal Gnome Ranger

    Strength (STR): 83
    Constitution (CON): 70
    Dexterity (DEX): 75
    Agility (AGI): 86
    Discipline (DIS): 61
    Aura (AUR): 55
    Logic (LOG): 95
    Intuition (INT): 65
    Wisdom (WIS): 50
    Influence (INF): 20

    CON will grow from 79 to 80 at level 30
    DEX will grow from 89 to 90 at level 30
    DIS will grow from 69 to 70 at level 28
    LOG will grow from 99 to 100 at level 20
    INT will grow from 79 to 80 at level 30
    STR will grow from 89 to 90 at level 28
    AGL will grow from 94 to 95 at level 28
    INF will grow from 33 to 34 at level 30
    WIS will grow from 64 to 65 at level 30
    AUR will grow from 61 to 62 at level 28

    Skills:

    Chad (at level 19), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
    Skill Name | Current Current
    | Bonus Ranks
    Two Weapon Combat..................| 5 1
    Armor Use..........................| 111 27
    Combat Maneuvers...................| 90 20
    Brawling...........................| 142 42
    Ambush.............................| 90 20
    Physical Fitness...................| 90 20
    Dodging............................| 90 20
    Harness Power......................| 90 20
    Survival...........................| 90 20
    Stalking and Hiding................| 140 40
    Perception.........................| 90 20
    Climbing...........................| 50 10
    First Aid..........................| 90 20

    Spell Lists
    Ranger.............................| 19
    Training Points: 0 Phy 11 Mnt (30 Mnt converted to Phy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolfard View Post
    Best way to tier up is ambushing
    Best way to tear up is being ambushed.

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    Little ranger hit level 30 recently and obtained an animal companion. Slight bummer F2P are limited to canine but better than rodent or bird in my opinion. I even traveled to Ta'Vaalor in search of a specific type but ended up finding the exact one I wanted near "home base".

    Heres his *skills and stats at level 30:

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    Chad (at level 30), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
      Skill Name                         | Current Current
                                         |   Bonus   Ranks
      Two Weapon Combat..................|      74      16
      Armor Use..........................|     120      30
      Combat Maneuvers...................|     124      32
      Brawling...........................|     164      64
      Ambush.............................|     124      32
      Physical Fitness...................|     128      34
      Dodging............................|     124      32
      Harness Power......................|     122      31
      Survival...........................|     124      32
      Stalking and Hiding................|     164      64
      Perception.........................|     124      32
      Climbing...........................|     105      25
    
    Spell Lists
      Minor Spiritual....................|               2
    
    Spell Lists
      Ranger.............................|              30
    Training Points: 13 Phy 0 Mnt (24 Phy converted to Mnt)
    
    Name: Chad Race: Burghal Gnome  Profession: Ranger (not shown)
    Gender: Male    Age: 0    Expr: 1063105    Level:  30
                      Normal (Bonus)  ...  Enhanced (Bonus)
        Strength (STR):    90 (5)     ...   90 (5)
    Constitution (CON):    80 (25)    ...   80 (25)
       Dexterity (DEX):    90 (30)    ...   90 (30)
         Agility (AGI):    95 (32)    ...   95 (32)
      Discipline (DIS):    70 (5)     ...   70 (5)
            Aura (AUR):    62 (11)    ...   62 (11)
           Logic (LOG):   100 (35)    ...  100 (35)
       Intuition (INT):    80 (20)    ...   80 (20)
          Wisdom (WIS):    65 (7)     ...   65 (7)
       Influence (INF):    34 (-13)   ...   34 (-13)
    Mana:  83   Silver: 0
    *wears a full wizard spellup, this build would most likely suffer without the extra spells. Long term goal would be to reduce or eliminate outside spells. Stopping ranger circle and focusing on MnS.

    All together I thoroughly enjoy playing this little gnome ranger but in hindsight I kind of wish I went monk or rogue instead. The lack of UAC masteries is kind of lackluster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wetsand View Post
    Little ranger hit level 30 recently and obtained an animal companion. Slight bummer F2P are limited to canine but better than rodent or bird in my opinion. I even traveled to Ta'Vaalor in search of a specific type but ended up finding the exact one I wanted near "home base".

    Heres his *skills and stats at level 30:

    Code:
    Chad (at level 30), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
      Skill Name                         | Current Current
                                         |   Bonus   Ranks
      Two Weapon Combat..................|      74      16
      Armor Use..........................|     120      30
      Combat Maneuvers...................|     124      32
      Brawling...........................|     164      64
      Ambush.............................|     124      32
      Physical Fitness...................|     128      34
      Dodging............................|     124      32
      Harness Power......................|     122      31
      Survival...........................|     124      32
      Stalking and Hiding................|     164      64
      Perception.........................|     124      32
      Climbing...........................|     105      25
    
    Spell Lists
      Minor Spiritual....................|               2
    
    Spell Lists
      Ranger.............................|              30
    Training Points: 13 Phy 0 Mnt (24 Phy converted to Mnt)
    
    Name: Chad Race: Burghal Gnome  Profession: Ranger (not shown)
    Gender: Male    Age: 0    Expr: 1063105    Level:  30
                      Normal (Bonus)  ...  Enhanced (Bonus)
        Strength (STR):    90 (5)     ...   90 (5)
    Constitution (CON):    80 (25)    ...   80 (25)
       Dexterity (DEX):    90 (30)    ...   90 (30)
         Agility (AGI):    95 (32)    ...   95 (32)
      Discipline (DIS):    70 (5)     ...   70 (5)
            Aura (AUR):    62 (11)    ...   62 (11)
           Logic (LOG):   100 (35)    ...  100 (35)
       Intuition (INT):    80 (20)    ...   80 (20)
          Wisdom (WIS):    65 (7)     ...   65 (7)
       Influence (INF):    34 (-13)   ...   34 (-13)
    Mana:  83   Silver: 0
    *wears a full wizard spellup, this build would most likely suffer without the extra spells. Long term goal would be to reduce or eliminate outside spells. Stopping ranger circle and focusing on MnS.

    All together I thoroughly enjoy playing this little gnome ranger but in hindsight I kind of wish I went monk or rogue instead. The lack of UAC masteries is kind of lackluster.
    I understand the desire to UAC, it's hella fun. However, mechanically speaking there are more benefits to a Ranged combat style for F2P on a ranger.

    1. 10x weapons are not possible for F2P outside of ranged. You will get the full bonus of a 5x bow w/ 5x arrows for 10x very easily.
    2. You don't have great AoE options as F2P because AoE abilities are limited (including crowd control). When you start hunting areas with more creature saturation, using sniping is a lot safer.
    3. Sniping (from my experience) is less reliant on outside spells.

    Since you're a burghal gnome, your STR modifier is always going to be low, so RT with a bow might not be ideal. I used a F2P ranger up to 29 with a 5x mechanical crossbow, and it is actually slightly faster than minimum RT with a bow. You can cock your crossbow while in cast RT, so kneel + 608 + cock crossbow all at the same, time, aim shot to the eye for only 3s RT means you're firing the crossbow 1s faster than a bow from hiding (with +30 AS, and DF modifier to boot - and it's easier to aim which is good since F2P is limited to somewhat sighting).

    In the end, UAC is super viable, but for F2P, sniping eliminates a lot of the handicaps and can be just as fast.
    Last edited by Maerit; 01-11-2019 at 09:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maerit View Post
    I understand the desire to UAC, it's hella fun. However, mechanically speaking there are more benefits to a Ranged combat style for F2P on a ranger.

    1. 10x weapons are not possible for F2P outside of ranged. You will get the full bonus of a 5x bow w/ 5x arrows for 10x very easily.
    2. You don't have great AoE options as F2P because AoE abilities are limited (including crowd control). When you start hunting areas with more creature saturation, using sniping is a lot safer.
    3. Sniping (from my experience) is less reliant on outside spells.

    Since you're a burghal gnome, your STR modifier is always going to be low, so RT with a bow might not be ideal. I used a F2P ranger up to 29 with a 5x mechanical crossbow, and it is actually slightly faster than minimum RT with a bow. You can cock your crossbow while in cast RT, so kneel + 608 + cock crossbow all at the same, time, aim shot to the eye for only 3s RT means you're firing the crossbow 1s faster than a bow from hiding (with +30 AS, and DF modifier to boot - and it's easier to aim which is good since F2P is limited to somewhat sighting).

    In the end, UAC is super viable, but for F2P, sniping eliminates a lot of the handicaps and can be just as fast.
    These are all excellent valid points in the argument to go ranged. Unfortunately F2P can't make arrows/bolts and I dislike the current system in place to manage arrows/bolts. Plus I had some midrange UAC gear from when I upgraded my monk.

    I haven't had much trouble in swarmy areas or doing bandits. Tangle weed is very helpful. I'd like to add in MoC(focused mstrike/FoF offset) at some point but spells take priority right now.

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