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    Quote Originally Posted by Astray View Post
    I don't think the Government stepping in and regulating is the answer we're all looking for. That's gonna fucking suck and it's an open invitation to cease or hold all production until something happens. Imagine the legal battle Simu would wage with your cash.

    It'd be a kickstarter funded by the players, for the players. Like SimuCon. Only it'll be legal fees for decades.

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    Is it legal to bet online in Missouri?
    State laws consider it a Class C misdemeanor to participate in gambling as a player outside of licensed facilities. Section 527.020 of the Missouri Revised Statutes lays it out plainly:

    572.020. 1. A person commits the crime of gambling if he knowingly engages in gambling.

    Gambling is a class C misdemeanor unless:
    (1) It is committed by a professional player, in which case it is a class D felony; or

    (2) The person knowingly engages in gambling with a minor, in which case it is a class B misdemeanor.

    A Class C misdemeanor in Missouri results in up to 15 days of jail time. It becomes a more serious Class D felony if you are considered a “professional” gambler with up to four years in jail.

    So the players themselves are breaking the law in Missouri by participating in events like DSD and sewers. The major players are committing felonies.
    Last edited by sellstuff1; 11-06-2018 at 05:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sellstuff1 View Post
    Is it legal to bet online in Missouri?
    State laws consider it a Class C misdemeanor to participate in gambling as a player outside of licensed facilities. Section 527.020 of the Missouri Revised Statutes lays it out plainly:

    572.020. 1. A person commits the crime of gambling if he knowingly engages in gambling.

    Gambling is a class C misdemeanor unless:
    (1) It is committed by a professional player, in which case it is a class D felony; or

    (2) The person knowingly engages in gambling with a minor, in which case it is a class B misdemeanor.

    A Class C misdemeanor in Missouri results in up to 15 days of jail time. It becomes a more serious Class D felony if you are considered a “professional” gambler with up to four years in jail.

    So the players themselves are breaking the law in Missouri by participating in events like DSD and sewers. The major players are committing felonies.

    It's not gambling. You always get a prize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastir View Post
    It's not gambling. You always get a prize.
    Not that I'm in any way agreeing with sellstuff but.....not claiming income to the IRS is a federal offense, even if I don't agree with taxing personal income.

    It's also probably not going to do a casino any good to eject a gumball with each pull of a slot machine and then claim it's no longer gambling.
    Last edited by Neveragain; 11-06-2018 at 06:27 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    Not that I'm in any way agreeing with sellstuff but.....not claiming income to the IRS is a federal offense, even if I don't agree with taxing personal income.

    It's also probably not going to do a casino any good to eject a gumball with each pull of a slot machine and then claim it's no longer gambling.
    You aren't winning cash prizes. You also dont technically own anything in the games, so in reality you are really just giving simu money for the chance to use something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sellstuff1 View Post
    So the players themselves are breaking the law in Missouri by participating in events like DSD and sewers. The major players are committing felonies.
    It'd never fly in a court room because the argument may be made that it's more of a prize machine.

    Also, you're pathetic and nobody takes you seriously. So there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    You aren't winning cash prizes. You also dont technically own anything in the games, so in reality you are really just giving simu money for the chance to use something.
    Like I said, I don't agree with sellstuff. That being said, even carnival games are required to meet specific guidelines and are inspected. There's no denying that more states will be pushing for legislation on this stuff and small companies like SIMU will have to find another way to attract consumers. The government tends to not go easy on industries that target minors and people with behavior disorders.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sellstuff1 View Post
    I'll be glad to step in and ruin Dreavenings for you if you keep it up, fascist.
    How do you think you would pull this off? Please give us details on more of your stupid ideas so that we may laugh at you some more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvenlady View Post
    except I don’t play at all anymore, I just continue to publish the occasional Elanthian Vogue because it reminds me of the fun aspects of GS that don’t involve microtransactions. The poorly executed business model and appalling customer service with little regard given to feedback - unless it immediately impacts on their profit margins - just frustrated me so much that I took the only course of action left and cancelled my subscriptions. I seriously doubt they care but I feel better about it!
    I bailed for the same reasons. Canceled all other accounts, keep my main open for transactions and possibly BS farming for cash if i feel bored. Other than that, game has been ruined steadily over the last few years.


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    Actually put the money GS that makes back into, you know, GS. Hire coders, advertise, that sort of thing.

    If this happened, I'm pretty sure almost everything I've ever even briefly complained about would either go away or at least I'd be 100% at peace with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leafiara View Post
    Actually put the money GS that makes back into, you know, GS. Hire coders, advertise, that sort of thing.

    If this happened, I'm pretty sure almost everything I've ever even briefly complained about would either go away or at least I'd be 100% at peace with it.
    Hey. HEY! This thread is for the irate people! Not the nice people! Go back from whence you came! *whipcrack*

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