1206 jackpot

[khorpulent]

Well come on, spill the beans, how much did you sell it for?

[audioserf]

Pretty sure the person who bought it is already selling it again

[Methais]

I mean, no one's had a problem with Simu directing 90% of their development towards people who just treat Gemstone as a slot machine, so why would people now?

People have been trashing on Simu over that since it began. Simu just gives zero fucks.

[Stumplicker]

People have been trashing on Simu over that since it began. Simu just gives zero fucks.

Yeah, because people keep throwing money at them. We need to stop harassing Simu about it and start ostracizing the individuals who encourage it by throwing tens of thousands of dollars at them for virtually nothing. It just makes everyone else's experience worse by making that sort of "development model" work. Even casinos offer outreach programs for addicted gamblers. Mario looks at Beldannon and just sees a dollar sign.

[Methais]

Yeah, because people keep throwing money at them.

Because they're stupid as fuck too.

We need to stop harassing Simu about it and start ostracizing the individuals who encourage it by throwing tens of thousands of dollars at them for virtually nothing. It just makes everyone else's experience worse by making that sort of "development model" work.

This would have zero effect.

[Taernath]

We need to stop harassing Simu about it and start ostracizing the individuals who encourage it by throwing tens of thousands of dollars at them for virtually nothing.

And how do you propose doing that? Not healing them in TSC? Active community members who DON'T spend money at these cash festivals are probably in the minority now.

[Stumplicker]

This would have zero effect.

I know this'll be an unpopular comment, but it worked with Alastir. I'm sure it's going to be challenged, but Alastir has corrected his behavior since he was ostracized. He may not have changed as a person, and who knows if he has, but I haven't seen him engage in open arguments on LNet, here, or make a shady deal since he was outed. He's stopped harassing players in game and claiming to have Wyrom's ear.

Social pressure works. You start applying that same pressure to the whales, where every interaction they have with anyone in the community there's commentary on them being "that gambling box scumbag", and they'll start taking a very hard look at their behavior.

Edit to add: And with those people it will likely be an easier task. They're largely not bad people. They're just unaware that their compulsive behavior has a lasting and detrimental effect on all of us and the game as a whole. The more people who are openly and vocally not okay with it, the fewer people will engage in it.

[Methais]

I know this'll be an unpopular comment, but it worked with Alastir. I'm sure it's going to be challenged, but Alastir has corrected his behavior since he was ostracized. He may not have changed as a person, and who knows if he has, but I haven't seen him engage in open arguments on LNet, here, or make a shady deal since he was outed. He's stopped harassing players in game and claiming to have Wyrom's ear.

Social pressure works. You start applying that same pressure to the whales, where every interaction they have with anyone in the community there's commentary on them being "that gambling box scumbag", and they'll start taking a very hard look at their behavior.

Edit to add: And with those people it will likely be an easier task. They're largely not bad people. They're just unaware that their compulsive behavior has a lasting and detrimental effect on all of us and the game as a whole. The more people who are openly and vocally not okay with it, the fewer people will engage in it.

You have no real way to tell how much money anyone else is spending unless they're openly sharing that information. You also have no real IC way to do anything about it. That, and someone spending money at events and encouraging Simu to keep up with this assbag model is apples and oranges compared to a player acting like a bag of shit to other players. Harassing players thinking it will solve the problem is just wishful thinking. They'll likely either just quit playing due to the toxic environment or people will start getting warned/banned for harassing them.

GS is a slot machine now operating on the mobile game stick-it-up-their-ass model.. You're just going to have to accept it, because it's not changing anytime soon, if ever.

[Pereus]

Its pretty simple guys. If you don't like how Simu is doing business, don't buy their product. I stopped for a variety of reasons, but one of them was I did not like the business model they are promoting so I decided I would no longer give them money. I do the same with my Miami Dolphins, I don't buy gear or spend money on game tickets because I hate how the owner directs the team. Sure, both cases is a drop in the bucket to them, but enough drops and it starts to have an affect.

Harassing other players who spend their money how they wish is just asinine.

[Neveragain]

Truth. Every word.

All the GMs are in on this too. Every last one of them. They apparently get a cut of the profits from the revenue generated by the events.

It’s a fine tuned casino now (the last vestige of old school GS being done away with after Ebon was turned into the Bellagio). This may sound crazy but the only way I see this ending and GS returning to an older format is an act of congress. http://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/...-battlefront-2

Another good read.

https://www.gamasutra.com/view/featu...e_.php?print=1

He adds that there is currently no proven link between free-to-play "whales" and addiction. "I would personally like to see wide-ranging independent studies done before we jump to any conclusions about any negative psychological effects.

~ Developer

Sounds almost verbatim to how the tobacco industry acted.