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    suppose I should watch the video before I comment eh? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by drauz View Post
    Since Cohen is releasing those to the media isn't that a breach of confidentiality?

    Don't you lose your license to practice law over this sort of thing?
    Eh, if he is paid a lot for it I'd imagine he wouldn't care. I suppose he could face criminal penalties and be sued too, but yeah, he isn't allowed to release anything without his client's approval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drauz View Post
    Since Cohen is releasing those to the media isn't that a breach of confidentiality?
    no, not in this case

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael...ent-privilege/

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...e-house-report
    Last edited by Androidpk; 07-25-2018 at 12:33 AM.

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    also, discussing crimes with your lawyer isn't covered by the rules of lawyer/client privilege

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    also, discussing crimes with your lawyer isn't covered by the rules of lawyer/client privilege
    False. An attorney may not be able the ethically plead Not Guilty on behalf of a client if the client admitted to crimes (the client can still plead on their own) but it is still protected, unless the client waives it.

    A lawyer may inform on IMPENDING crimes, such as if the client says he is about to go kill someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    also, discussing crimes with your lawyer isn't covered by the rules of lawyer/client privilege
    Um, yes it is. Are you fucking high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drauz View Post
    Um, yes it is. Are you fucking high?
    No. You cannot use attorney/client privilege as a shield if you're discussing committing a crime or covering a crime up. It's called crime/fraud exception, look it up. It's why Cohen was raided back in April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    No. You cannot use attorney/client privilege as a shield if you're discussing committing a crime or covering a crime up. It's called crime/fraud exception, look it up. It's why Cohen was raided back in April.
    You can't use it to plan a crime, no. Then he is just an accessory and not a lawyer. You can use it to discuss a crime you have committed if you are looking at your legal options.

    You can't use it to subpoena the PC for IPs because you are butthurt either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    No. You cannot use attorney/client privilege as a shield if you're discussing committing a crime or covering a crime up. It's called crime/fraud exception, look it up. It's why Cohen was raided back in April.
    That recording sounds like a lawyer giving his client options. I've only heard 1 of the 12 tapes so the others may tell a different story, but it seems like a lawyer telling a client their options how to move forward. The client should be able to have a reasonable expectation that these are legal options. I don't think this particular tape is the smoking gun people are making it out to be. Again the other tapes could paint a different story.

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    The weird part of the story may be the person Trump is talking to in the background on his Phone, if the timeline is correct it is very likely Pam Bondi who is just about to dismiss charges against him in the Trump U thing in Florida.
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    **SPLAT!!** Khaladon careens off the far wall, slides down the smooth wood panelling and collapses into a quivering heap on the floor, with only his dignity bruised.

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