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    Quote Originally Posted by Taernath View Post
    Again, the issue isn't whether there's a small mechanical advantage or a large mechanical advantage between someone in 4x gear vs. someone who spends $1000 at a paid event, it's whether there's an advantage at all. If there IS, that is the definition of pay to win and Simu passed that threshold long ago.
    I would make the argument that there isn't really PvP or CvC so it doesn't matter. In a ranked or pvp/cvc based match, it'll always result in the higher enchant gear or most imbalanced class coming out the victor.

    Those said, it has NEVER boiled down to skill between characters or players and it likely never will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koars Light View Post
    It’s really why I enjoy this mmo the most, it focuses on player skill moreso than gear or a player’s RL resources. If anyone gives you any grief about P2W mechanics in Gemstone just politely point them to the Hardcore thread. Reaching level 50 with severe restrictions to wearable spells and gear without dying a single time. Absolutely floored.
    Rofl, no. If you have a 10x DB, 10x armor, 10x weapon you don't need any skill at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taernath View Post
    Again, the issue isn't whether there's a small mechanical advantage or a large mechanical advantage between someone in 4x gear vs. someone who spends $1000 at a paid event, it's whether there's an advantage at all. If there IS, that is the definition of pay to win and Simu passed that threshold long ago.
    Hey pal, the gladiator games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Hey pal, the gladiator games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astray View Post
    I would make the argument that there isn't really PvP or CvC so it doesn't matter. In a ranked or pvp/cvc based match, it'll always result in the higher enchant gear or most imbalanced class coming out the victor.

    Those said, it has NEVER boiled down to skill between characters or players and it likely never will.
    p2w isn't limited to PvP games, it's just most easily noticed there.
    You had better pay your guild dues before you forget. You are 113 months behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taernath View Post
    p2w isn't limited to PvP games, it's just most easily noticed there.
    I never understood the branding of a non-PvP game as P2W. To me, P2W is pvp or skill-based. Maybe I'm just an elitist dick though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astray View Post
    I never understood the branding of a non-PvP game as P2W. To me, P2W is pvp or skill-based. Maybe I'm just an elitist dick though.
    Leaderboards, man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Velfi View Post
    Leaderboards, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astray View Post
    I never understood the branding of a non-PvP game as P2W. To me, P2W is pvp or skill-based. Maybe I'm just an elitist dick though.
    P2W (to me) allows you to skip all the bullshit and just pay for the items to make the game easier. Can you get a Wonderously CW maul with jesus flares? Sure, its just gonna take a couple decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drauz View Post
    P2W (to me) allows you to skip all the bullshit and just pay for the items to make the game easier. Can you get a Wonderously CW maul with jesus flares? Sure, its just gonna take a couple decade.
    Yeah, that's another thing. God, that's where people run into the wall, isn't it? What do you mean to tell me that this merchant chooses randomly in a room full of 100 people? WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!

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