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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Could have fooled me, based on your Democrat leaders.
    AOC was among a group of congresspeople who sent Trump a letter a few months ago urging him to withdraw us from Syria. She is now calling Trump's pullout reckless.

    Omar was among those who called to withdraw troops, haven't heard what she has to say about this yet. Rand Paul also signed that letter and he's saying he's glad Trump has kept his promise to withdraw US troops. At least he's being consistent.

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    More leftist media drivel. Roughly 50 US service members in support roles were withdrawn from the border region. What exactly was this troupe to do vs an impending Turkish operation? Should we go to war with a fellow UN member state over this, is that what the media is suggesting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furryrat View Post
    More leftist media drivel. Roughly 50 US service members in support roles were withdrawn from the border region. What exactly was this troupe to do vs an impending Turkish operation? Should we go to war with a fellow UN member state over this, is that what the media is suggesting?
    They were afraid to hit US Troops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furryrat View Post
    More leftist media drivel. Roughly 50 US service members in support roles were withdrawn from the border region. What exactly was this troupe to do vs an impending Turkish operation? Should we go to war with a fellow UN member state over this, is that what the media is suggesting?
    You must have missed that Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell also say we should be staying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taernath View Post
    You must have missed that Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell also say we should be staying.
    I did not. I thought it rather polite, actually. A call was made from one leader to another saying hey, we need to secure our border and it might get a bit messy, could you please remove your persons from the conflict zone, and in return we promise to be as neat and clean as possible. It does taste a bit sour, and I agree with that, nothing in the Middle East is as simple as we're on this side, you're on that. Turkey is also warring against Daesh and has abject interest in preventing its resurgence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taernath View Post
    I want a consistent foreign policy that isn't subject to whatever Trump feels like doing that day.
    Wait.. didn't Trump run on getting us out of all these areas that hate us anyway and bring an end to all the decade long wars?

    So.. he's been saying he's going to be doing this since 2015.. but you believe he just woke up yesterday and decided that?
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    3 million more popular votes. I'd say the numbers speak for themselves. Gerrymandering won for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Yeah I was really hoping Turkey wouldn't attack. Hopefully Trump holds good on his Twitter threat that he is going to hold Turkey responsible in someway.

    Reading up on this more it almost sounds like Turkey was basically telling the US they were going to invade Syria no matter what, if that's true at that point what do we do? Keep troops there and get into a war with Turkey? Something tells me that wouldn't have gone over well either. I think a big problem is no one in the West seems to want to hold anyone accountable for anything anymore, unless they are long time allies like Saudi Arabia.

    But holding China responsible for the shit they do? Nope, Trump only does it in regards to tariffs. No one in Congress or the rest of the West seems to give a shit.
    Hold Russia responsible? Nope. Most of Europe wants that gas and oil from Russia.
    Hold Iran responsible? Nope. The west can't get enough Iran dick to suck.

    What happened to the West since, oh I don't know, around 2009?
    We keep troops there and there's no way they attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archigeek View Post
    We keep troops there and there's no way they attack.
    Just for the sake of argument let's say Turkey did say we are going to invade this area whether you have troops there or not. What do we do? Keep troops there and call their bluff? And if they do attack and they end up killing some of our troops, even though they warned us ahead of time of their plan, do we then go to war or what?

    From what I have read the troops we removed performed a support role, they weren't really combat troops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archigeek View Post
    We keep troops there and there's no way they attack.
    This isn't some terrible act of betrayal. The raw facts are that the Turkish government has been fighting against their own home-grown "terrorists", the YPG, since 1978. The Obama administration created a vacuum in Iraq with massive troop withdrawals in 2011 which directly led to the formation of ISIS/ISIL/Daesh, which then spread into Syria. In 2014 corrective action was finally deemed necessary and we needed allies on the ground, and the Kurds were one of few parties who fit the role of an 'enemy of our enemy is our friend.' Sadly, this isn't the first time the US government has used the Kurds in this fashion. Iraqi Kurdistan was a pawn in the Iraq war in the early '90s, and perhaps now not so ironically, it was Turkey that also denied the US access to Iraq in 2003 for fear of inevitable sympathy for Kurdish suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    Wait.. didn't Trump run on getting us out of all these areas that hate us anyway and bring an end to all the decade long wars?

    So.. he's been saying he's going to be doing this since 2015.. but you believe he just woke up yesterday and decided that?
    That wasn't how his administration was running things, though. Apparently they were completely blindsided by his latest impulse and there's no real plan in place beyond chucking deuces. We even told the Kurds we'd protect them and asked them to reduce fortification levels to reduce tensions a few weeks ago.

    Shit, we've worked alongside the Kurds for about 16 years now, not just in Syria but in Iraq too. These are people who have been on the literal front lines for our Middle East military adventurism and now we've abandoned them. There almost certainly will be another massive humanitarian crisis. I hope I'm wrong.
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