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Thread: Things that made you Facepalm today (Political Version)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaps View Post
    I get what you're saying, but I'm reasonable when it comes to laws - instituted by our elected officials, in compliance with the Constitution. Requiring mandatory training/certification in weapons handling seems like a very reasonable metric... as opposed to banning weapon systems.

    I personally think a minimum of 160 hours for full training/repetitive tasks.. but 80, IMO, is minimum for safe handling/employment procedures to ensure an owner is capable to handle their firearm.

    The idea of banning weapon systems - even military grade weapons, even though I get why they do it - is something I dislike all together... but again I'm reasonable to accommodate properly written laws/safety measures to ensure firearm safety.

    The ironic part is... for some reason in the past 20+ years people hate the NRA... when the NRA actually provided all of these services to ensure people were safe and properly trained to respect weapons...

    I think of it like the whole "defund the police" movement - respect for police erodes... "defund NRA" - respect for weapons erodes...
    There is no "reasonable" with unreasonable people. Any kind of requirement is simply an opening and a stepping stone for total loss of Rights. We have seen these abuses with the ATF and changing regs constantly, idiocy about taxes on weapons and ammo and so on and every other kind of backhanded ban or limit. Training is another gateway for them to cause defacto bans so no, it's not reasonable or responsible or allowable.

    This is all without regard to the cost, anything mandated will increase in cost, the lack of quality and the loss of life for people in need of defense that can't get it because of the training requirement. How many people get hurt or die due to waiting periods? More than 0. How about the people in cities that needed help in a crisis like the riots in 2016 or 2020?

    No such limit is acceptable and the current limits are already over reach and being abused to the harm of the people.

    Responsibility belongs solely on the criminal and partially on all the whiners that didn't press charges at the many times the police were called for his previous violent episodes. Any one of which would have made him ineligible to buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Mentally ill people canít. He was never admitted into an institution.
    And yet if the ar-15 is were still illegal as it was at their federal level some 20+ years ago, then the likelihood of the event would have decreased significantly

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    The totality of the EU has a population larger than ours, has most rifles, semi automatics and all automatic rifles outlawed and has a gun death rate of 0.9 per 100,000

    The United States, with minimal gun control and more civilian guns than population, has a gun death rate of nearer that is 10.5 per 100,000.

    The problem is the guns. The argument that somehow Europeans are different and less mentally ill or has less I've a criminal element is a straight up lie to misdirect from the shocking reality that our murder rate with Firearms is 10 times higher

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    Seems no matter which solutions are offered the Democrats just don't want to hear it. Their only response to school shootings is "How many more kids must die before we ban all guns?"

    I'm beginning to think that's a threat from Democrats now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    The totality of the EU has a population larger than ours, has most rifles, semi automatics and all automatic rifles outlawed and has a gun death rate of 0.9 per 100,000

    The United States, with minimal gun control and more civilian guns than population, has a gun death rate of nearer that is 10.5 per 100,000.

    The problem is the guns. The argument that somehow Europeans are different and less mentally ill or has less I've a criminal element is a straight up lie to misdirect from the shocking reality that our murder rate with Firearms is 10 times higher
    Be straightforward, do you want to ban gun sales, completely criminalize them, or outright seize them?

    The problem is so complex yet 99% of people want to entrench themselves in a Twitter length, MSNBC or Fox news prescribed solution or statement that doesn't come close to what needs to be done to come together make hard decisions, and solve the problem.

    The way this is shaking out already in the media, Might as well offer our thoughts and prayers...

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    The governor of Texas was holding a press conference about this tragedy and Beto interrupted the event to make it all about him instead.

    Why are far leftists such as Beto and Seran such bad people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    And yet if the ar-15 is were still illegal as it was at their federal level some 20+ years ago, then the likelihood of the event would have decreased significantly
    Only new ones were banned under that act, and it only lasted ten years. Speaking of which, what is abstinence and how are Republicans trying to block it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    The governor of Texas was holding a press conference about this tragedy and Beto interrupted the event to make it all about him instead.

    Why are far leftists such as Beto and Seran such bad people?
    It's even more embarrassing than I originally thought. Even a CBS reporter said this was very clearly staged by Beto:

    @JanetShamlian reports on Beto O’Rourke confronting Gov. Abbott during presser: "There were two people across the aisle from me and a moment before the press conference started, they got up from their seats when Beto walked in ... This seems something very clearly staged."
    So Beto sent people to the event to hold seats in the front row and right as the presser started they got up from their seats when Beto walked in and he then sat down in the front row, this way he could attend the presser unnoticed and sit in the front row to make sure all of the cameras had a good view of him as he made this tragedy all about him and his disgusting political agenda.

    Good news for you, Seran! I no longer think you are the most disgusting person in the history of the world! Beto got you beat here with this performance! You're gonna have to kick it up a notch.
    Last edited by Tgo01; 05-25-2022 at 10:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Seems no matter which solutions are offered the Democrats just don't want to hear it. Their only response to school shootings is "How many more kids must die before we ban all guns?"

    I'm beginning to think that's a threat from Democrats now.
    That's been the consistent line Republicans have been scaring the poor and downtrodden into voting Republican for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    That's been the consistent line Republicans have been scaring the poor and downtrodden into voting Republican for decades.
    How many more kids must die before Democrats engage in common sense school safety laws? How many more, Seran?

    "This is a gun free zone" <-- This has been the extent to which Democrats have provided "safety" to schools.
    Last edited by Tgo01; 05-25-2022 at 11:19 PM.

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