Things that made you Facepalm today (Political Version)

[Parkbandit]

Republicans: "We can't spend money on our schools."

Democrats: "Defund the police"

Republicans and Democrats:

And socialists are just "I don't want to work, I need the government to take care of me!!"

[Seran]

The US Constitution and 200+ years of case law disagrees with you.

About twenty years, yes, under a conservative court.

[Seran]

What you don't understand SERAN is that it doesn't matter if they are outlawed. CRIMINALS and Mentally Ill people will get them if they want them. It's a lack of humanity problem.

Criminals can't buy firearms legally. Mentally ill shouldn't be able to, but can in a lot of Red states. By reducing the number of legally owned firearms capable of mass murder, then you reduce the gray market or straight black market resale of once legally owned firearms by first party owners or who wind up in the hands of criminals by theft. Duh.

[Neveragain]

And socialists are just "I don't want to work, I need the government to take care of me!!"

Schools are literally falling apart.

Parkbandit "Fucking socialists!"

[Gelston]

Criminals can't buy firearms legally. Mentally ill shouldn't be able to, but can in a lot of Red states. By reducing the number of legally owned firearms capable of mass murder, then you reduce the gray market or straight black market resale of once legally owned firearms by first party owners or who wind up in the hands of criminals by theft. Duh.

Mentally ill people can’t. He was never admitted into an institution.

[Furryrat]

How terribly frightening it must be for a child to grow up in a society where adults argue about having the right to kill children before they are born, and only focus on the tools used to do so when it is done after they are born.

[~Rocktar~]

If the Government says 18 is the age of "adulthood" and right to vote.. then every legal protection should be afforded them. I disagree with the law saying you can only drink at 21, etc...

Either change the legal age of "adulthood" as it applies to the law to accommodate the discrepancies, or set everything as "legal" at 18 as it is currently the definition of an "adult".

That's my opinion on it.

The one thing that I think should be implemented... is every individual purchasing a weapon must be required to complete a minimum of an 80 hour firearms course/drills - or alternative "test-out" options (ie. shooting drills, assembly/disassembly, written test, etc). The fact we have licenses for vehicles, and not weapons is absurd.

I am 100% for people owning weapons, but requiring a safety/drills course to ensure proper handling is well within the respectable purview in my opinion.

What other Constitutional rights do we have to have the government's permission or authorization to exercise?

[Parkbandit]

About twenty years, yes, under a conservative court.

No. US citizens have had the legal right to own firearms since forever in this country.

[Parkbandit]

Schools are literally falling apart.

Parkbandit "Fucking socialists!"

You know what helps schools? Tax money from working people.

Maybe you should sit this one out... as usual.

[Shaps]

What other Constitutional rights do we have to have the government's permission or authorization to exercise?

I get what you're saying, but I'm reasonable when it comes to laws - instituted by our elected officials, in compliance with the Constitution. Requiring mandatory training/certification in weapons handling seems like a very reasonable metric... as opposed to banning weapon systems.

I personally think a minimum of 160 hours for full training/repetitive tasks.. but 80, IMO, is minimum for safe handling/employment procedures to ensure an owner is capable to handle their firearm.

The idea of banning weapon systems - even military grade weapons, even though I get why they do it - is something I dislike all together... but again I'm reasonable to accommodate properly written laws/safety measures to ensure firearm safety.

The ironic part is... for some reason in the past 20+ years people hate the NRA... when the NRA actually provided all of these services to ensure people were safe and properly trained to respect weapons...

I think of it like the whole "defund the police" movement - respect for police erodes... "defund NRA" - respect for weapons erodes...