How often do you use 1650?

[Jason13828]

Hi all,

My paladin is level 60 and I'm loving it (which is so strange because my low level paladin was such a drag to play). He currently has 120 and 1640. Uses OHE and Shield (cman feint, shield strike + shield strike mastery and mstrike are lots of fun).

I'm wondering if anyone can comment on how useful they find 1650. Is it a staple of your hunting at higher levels? Fun to mess around with? Never used unless during an invasion?

I'd also love to see some clips of people with 1618 and 1650 up using zeal and onslaught! This spell just seems so cool on paper that I'm wondering if the reality is quite a bit different. I'm guessing not many paladins go beyond 24/25 ranks in SMC (I only have 11 at 60) but 30 energy seems like enough to do some sweet sweet action.

[mgoddess]

Level 95, haven't switched skills up enough to get 1650 yet, probably won't until post-cap... which is part RP-choice, and part not-enough-TP's 'choice'.

Looking forward to reading what other paladins say about it, though!

[time4fun]

I use 1650 pretty regularly. Candidly, I use it for Onslaught more than anything else. I do try to work Zeal and Armor into the mix on occasion, but the fact that Zeal has a 3 second soft cast RT makes me less likely to use it for serious situations (mostly I just use it to use it every once in a while). I'm already doing the 1602/1614/1630 routine in large groups. Adding another 3 seconds of RT to what is already 9 seconds is excessive.

But Armor has saved my life once or twice, and onslaught has definitely saved my life (and weapon) several times.

[Jason13828]

Any chance you have some logs or could take some logs of your action with 1650?

[time4fun]

>incarn onsl
You issue a drawling, affable prayer to Ivas and feel a familiar desire settle upon you. Sensual and insatiable, ethereal green tentacles wreathe your star, and in a gyrating attack, you lash out against all that surround you.
You swing a polyhedral mithril morning star at an Ithzir champion!
The Ithzir champion dodges just in the nick of time!
You swing a polyhedral mithril morning star at an Ithzir seer!
AS: +647 vs DS: +348 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +74 = +410
... and hit for 154 points of damage!
Right leg ripped from socket at the knee!
An Ithzir seer falls to the ground grasping her mangled right leg!
As you strike the seer, droplets of blood are sucked from it to your mithril morning star, running up the shaft to be absorbed by the vines wrapped around your wrist.
Vines of vicious briars whip out from your mithril morning star, raking the seer with its thorns. The seer looks slightly ill as the glistening emerald coating from each briar works itself under its skin.
... 30 points of damage!
Fierce arm lock twists an Ithzir seer's left arm!
You swing a polyhedral mithril morning star at a war griffin!
AS: +647 vs DS: +280 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +28 = +426
... and hit for 160 points of damage!
Incredible strike pierces heart and runs the war griffin clean through!
The war griffin crashes to the ground, motionless.
A war griffin recovers from being rebuked, regaining its composure.
As you strike the griffin, droplets of blood are sucked from it to your mithril morning star, running up the shaft to be absorbed by the vines wrapped around your wrist.
You swing a polyhedral mithril morning star at an Ithzir seer!
AS: +647 vs DS: +408 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +66 = +342
... and hit for 122 points of damage!
Knocked back several feet by blow to abdomen.
As you strike the seer, droplets of blood are sucked from it to your mithril morning star, running up the shaft to be absorbed by the vines wrapped around your wrist.
You swing a polyhedral mithril morning star at an Ithzir seer!
AS: +647 vs DS: +333 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +20 = +371
... and hit for 138 points of damage!
Deft strike to the back cracks vertebrae!
The Ithzir seer is knocked to the ground!

** Necrotic energy from your mithril morning star overflows into you! **

You feel healed!
As you strike the seer, droplets of blood are sucked from it to your mithril morning star, running up the shaft to be absorbed by the vines wrapped around your wrist.
Roundtime: 3 sec.


>incarn smite
Calling upon Ivas to lend you power, you watch as green tentacles encircle your star. Raising it high over your head, you slash at an Ithzir seer, releasing the writhing power of Ivas upon her.
[SMR result: 157 (Open d100: 62)]
An Ithzir seer is struck by the influx of divine energy, causing 94 damage!
An explosive burst engulfs her!
... 50 points of damage!
Head and most of upper body turned into a smoking pile of gore!
The Ithzir seer falls to the ground in a crumpled heap.
The opalescent aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
The deep blue glow leaves an Ithzir seer.
The Ithzir seer no longer bristles with energy.
The dim aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
The powerful look leaves an Ithzir seer.
An Ithzir seer seems to lose an aura of confidence.
The light blue glow leaves an Ithzir seer.
The wall of force disappears from around an Ithzir seer.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You sense that your divine energy has been exhausted.

[time4fun]

Sorry I didn't think to do this until the end of my hunt. I'll go grab some more logs of 1650 on the next hunt

[time4fun]

This is Onslaught plus Zeal:

You issue a drawling, affable prayer to Ivas and feel a familiar desire settle upon you. Sensual and insatiable, ethereal green tentacles wreathe your dhara, and in a gyrating attack, you lash out against all that surround you.
You swing a sleek tenebrous dhara at an Ithzir adept!
AS: +607 vs DS: +426 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +45 = +257
... and hit for 105 points of damage!
Blow to stomach rearranges some organs!
The Ithzir adept is stunned!

** Your tenebrous dhara is suddenly set ablaze with jade green flames that swirl in a violent vortex around it! **

... 30 points of damage!
Something gives in the Ithzir adept's neck!
It is knocked to the ground!

** A sickly green aura radiates from a sleek tenebrous dhara and seeps into an Ithzir adept's wounds! **

... 5 points of damage!
The Ithzir adept's right eye swells suddenly, causing great pain.
You swing a sleek tenebrous dhara at a greater construct!
AS: +607 vs DS: +254 with AvD: +18 + d100 roll: +47 = +418
... and hit for 80 points of damage!
Blow to chest causes the greater construct's heart to skip a beat.
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.
You feel the zeal of your patron surging throughout your body.

** Your tenebrous dhara is suddenly set ablaze with jade green flames that swirl in a violent vortex around it! **

... 1 point of damage!
Loose arm hold.

** Your tenebrous dhara pulses with a burst of plasma energy! **

... 25 points of damage!
Glaring burst to the greater construct's chest dances across skin leaving smoking holes!

Your tenebrous dhara suddenly lights up with hundreds of tiny blue sparks!
The shimmering gold aura surrounding the greater construct flickers momentarily.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You swing a sleek tenebrous dhara at an Ithzir champion!
AS: +607 vs DS: +291 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +34 = +386
... and hit for 78 points of damage!
Hard hit shatters shield arm.
You feel the zeal of your patron surging throughout your body.

** Your tenebrous dhara is suddenly set ablaze with jade green flames that swirl in a violent vortex around it! **

... 15 points of damage!
Solid grapple to the back, back muscles pulled!
It is knocked to the ground!

[Jason13828]

Ohhhh man. That looks so fun. I love flares! Does Onslaught hit EVERYTHING? Or just what your MOC training allows with a normal mstrike?

Also once you finish an onslaught cant you mstrike right away without incurring a stamina penalty?

[Menos]

Onslaught hits everything and ignores part of defender's stance. You can also string more than one of them together.

[mgoddess]

Onslaught hits everything and ignores part of defender's stance. You can also string more than one of them together.

This plus T4F's logs are making me reconsider the awesomeness that 1650 could very well be. Time to call up a training spreadsheet!