Denouement of U.S. Empire

[cwolff]

I don't think you know what that word means.

I think you're ignoring that our administration is willfully inflicting pain on children to get us to pay for a stupid wall that Mexico's supposed to pay for.

[Gelston]

I think you're ignoring that our administration is willfully inflicting pain on children to get us to pay for a stupid wall that Mexico's supposed to pay for.

Yes, it is a shame that the Democrats created that law.

[cwolff]

Yes, it is a shame that the Democrats created that law.

They didn't. You're just misinformed. It's trump policy that you're ashamed of. Not a democrats law.

[drauz]

In the politics folder, all things here will be political. What are you doing? Defending the sanctity of the ancient Summer solstice celebration of the father? Or can you simply not defend trump so you find fault with me to blunt the criticisms?

I've hardly defended Trump on anything. I just don't think he is the incarnation of evil that you think he is.

I don't think you should separate families but I also don't think they should be coming here illegally. Send them directly home on a bus.

[Gelston]

They didn't. You're just misinformed. It's trump policy that you're ashamed of. Not a democrats law.

No, it is an Obama era policy. Trump is enforcing it. Obama did too. It is kind of funny that a lot of the pictures being distrusted concerning it are from 2012.

[drauz]

They didn't. You're just misinformed. It's trump policy that you're ashamed of. Not a democrats law.

So when a citizen commits a crime and their child has to go into the foster system it's the lawmaker's fault?

Sounds about right.

[Gelston]

So when a citizen commits a crime and their child has to go into the foster system it's the lawmaker's fault?

Sounds about right.

It is funny because the ATEP under Obama was more harsh than what Trump is doing. They used to separate the family and then fly the parent to some random place in Mexico.

But no, this only became a problem under Trump.

[cwolff]

I've hardly defended Trump on anything. I just don't think he is the incarnation of evil that you think he is.

I don't think you should separate families but I also don't think they should be coming here illegally. Send them directly home on a bus.

There's nothing illegal about seeking asylum or refugee status. Nothing illegal about fleeing a country where you face persecution to find a safe harbor in another country.

No, it is an Obama era policy. Trump is enforcing it. Obama did too. It is kind of funny that a lot of the pictures being distrusted concerning it are from 2012.

No it isn't. You're just ill informed.

[Methais]

soywolff is the ideal useful idiot that Democrats wish all of their voters could be.

[Gelston]

There's nothing illegal about seeking asylum or refugee status. Nothing illegal about fleeing a country where you face persecution to find a safe harbor in another country.



No it isn't. You're just ill informed.

I'm misinformed? You probably don't even know what ATEP is. Go ahead look it up. Obama separated families since 2009. This is not a new policy created under Trump. You are just being led by the nose.