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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-russians.html

    “Although I appreciate the FBI’s diligence in identifying the staffer with potential ties to the Chinese government and providing Senator Feinstein with a defensive briefing, I am deeply troubled that the Trump Campaign was not afforded the same treatment when the FBI began to suspect that campaign staffers George Papadopoulos, Carter Page, Michael Flynn, and Paul Manafort had improper ties to the Russian government,” Republican Sen. Graham, of South Carolina, wrote to FBI Director Christopher Wray.

    “It appears that rather than provide then-candidate Donald Trump or Trump Campaign officials with a defensive briefing to inform them of the FBI’s concerns, the Bureau opted to use a confidential informant and a dossier funded by the Democratic National Committee to launch an unprecedented counterintelligence investigation into the Trump Campaign,” Graham continued.
    I need someone suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome to explain the reasoning for the disparity in their native Derpanese language.

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    Both Hillary and Trump's campaign were briefed by the FBI in July of 2016 and warned that they would probably be targeted by foreign adversaries, including Russia.

    The Trump campaign ignored this warning.

    The Trump campaign was then warned that Flynn was compromised and a risk to national security. Which Trump promptly ignored and proceed to make Flynn his national security advisor.

    Trump crying now that no one warned him about the Russias is a poor attempt at a defense when it is well documented that he was told about the threat by multiple people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-russians.html



    I need someone suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome to explain the reasoning for the disparity in their native Derpanese language.

    This is from your fox news article:

    One retired FBI special agent and former national spokesman who served at the bureau during the time of the Feinstein investigation, but not specifically on the case, John Iannarelli, told Fox News that the procedure could have been different based on the narrow scope of the Feinstein allegations.

    “The Feinstein investigation was very narrow, in terms of who their target was, whereas the Trump investigation appears to be much broader,” Iannarelli told Fox News.
    He also suggested that the FBI trusted Feinstein with the information.

    “When you’re conducting a public corruption investigation, if you’re looking at someone who’s working for the official but have nothing to indicate that the official is involved, you may notify the official to prevent the investigation from being compromised,” he said.
    So, the answer seems to be right in the article you posted. They think trumps a fucking crook and are investigating his treasonous collusion.

    But the other part of the story — which hasn’t been completely told — is how the Trump campaign actively seized on this interference, how it benefited from it, and how its associates communicated (wittingly or unwittingly) with Russian intelligence and WikiLeaks, according to the Mueller indictments, the public record and previous reporting.


    A Trump campaign associate — presumably Roger Stone — communicated with Russian intelligence: “On or about August 15, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, wrote to a person who was in regular contact with senior members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump, ‘thank u for writing back … do u find anyt[h]ing interesting in the docs I posted.’” (Mueller indictments, July 13, 2018)

    Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer on June 9, 2016 after Donald Trump Jr was told that the Russian government had dirt on Hillary Clinton: “If it's what you say, I love it,” Trump Jr. wrote back (June 3, 2016)

    Trump himself asked Russia for assistance in the 2016 election: "If you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing." (July 27, 2016)

    Russian intelligence, “for the first time,” tried to gain access to Hillary Clinton’s personal emails/server on that same day: “[O]n or about July 27, 2016, the Conspirators attempted after hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party and used by Clinton’s personal office.” (Mueller indictments, July 13, 2018)

    An organization — presumably WikiLeaks — strategized on the release of the hacked DNC emails with Russian intelligence: “On or about July 6, 2016, Organization 1 added, ‘if you have anything hillary related we want it in the next tweo [sic] days prefable [sic] because the DNC [Democratic National Convention] is approaching and she will solidify bernie supporters behind her after. The Conspirators responded, “ok … i see.’ Organization 1 explained, ‘we think trump has only a 25% chance of winning against hillary … so conflict between bernie and hillary is interesting.’” (Mueller indictments, July 13, 2018)

    A Trump campaign associate — Roger Stone — appeared to have advance notice of the WikiLeaks releases of John Podesta’s emails before they first came out on Oct. 7, 2016: “It will soon [be] the Podesta’s time in the barrel” (August 21, 2016 tweet); Stone later said he was referring to both Podesta brothers, John and Tony, in the Panama Papers.

    Trump eagerly campaigned on the WikiLeaks disclosures of Podesta’s emails, mentioning the word “WikiLeaks” some 140 times in the final month of the race: "Boy, I love reading those WikiLeaks" (Nov. 4, 2016)

    Donald Trump Jr. exchanged direct messages with WikiLeaks in the fall of the 2016 election: “Hiya, it’d be great if you guys could comment on/push this story,” WikiLeaks wrote Trump Jr. “Already did that earlier today,” Trump Jr. responded. “It’s amazing what [Hillary Clinton] can get away with.” (Oct. 3, 2016)

    At his news conference on Friday announcing the indictments, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said, “There’s no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There’s no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result.” He added, “The special counsel’s investigation is ongoing.”

    But if the revelations above aren’t collusion, coordination or conspiracy, then what do you call them — especially given that NO ONE from the Trump orbit ever called the FBI? Are they all a coincidence? Ignorance? Or something else?

    As David Ignatius writes in the Washington Post, “If you were one of the American intelligence officers who helped gather the information that’s included in Friday’s indictment, what would you think about the fact that Trump has asked for a private meeting first with Putin?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    Both Hillary and Trump's campaign were briefed by the FBI in July of 2016 and warned that they would probably be targeted by foreign adversaries, including Russia.

    The Trump campaign ignored this warning.

    The Trump campaign was then warned that Flynn was compromised and a risk to national security. Which Trump promptly ignored and proceed to make Flynn his national security advisor.

    Trump crying now that no one warned him about the Russias is a poor attempt at a defense when it is well documented that he was told about the threat by multiple people.
    Trump was also told BY THE RUSSIANS that Russia was interfering with the election to get him elected. And then he proceeded to spend the next 2 years casting doubt on the possibility that the Russians were interfering in the election to get him elected.


    So there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    Both Hillary and Trump's campaign were briefed by the FBI in July of 2016 and warned that they would probably be targeted by foreign adversaries, including Russia.

    The Trump campaign ignored this warning.

    The Trump campaign was then warned that Flynn was compromised and a risk to national security. Which Trump promptly ignored and proceed to make Flynn his national security advisor.

    Trump crying now that no one warned him about the Russias is a poor attempt at a defense when it is well documented that he was told about the threat by multiple people.
    And there's this. As a candidate he was briefed. I guess the trumplican reasoning now goes like this, "He was briefed about Russia but not specifically enough. It's not fair, it's a conspiracy, but it's a hoax anyway because dems lost" Is that it?

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    About the right amount of derp I was expecting. Thanks you three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    Trump was also told BY THE RUSSIANS that Russia was interfering with the election to get him elected. And then he proceeded to spend the next 2 years casting doubt on the possibility that the Russians were interfering in the election to get him elected.


    So there's that.
    In between the time he was initially warned of the Russians and the inauguration members of Trump's team secretly met with Russians at least 35 times. Total coincidence I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    There's really no 2 sides to this. Trumps attacking his detractors in any way he can. Threatening the security clearances of people like brennan, awarding security clearances to people like Jared and his daughter and protecting others like Flynn.

    All patriots should find this abusive, petty and beneath the office but we know that won't happen. Instead his minions will defend it. Thats fucked up
    You're going full blown retard at this point.

    Again.
    PC RETARD HALL OF FAME

    Quote Originally Posted by Seran-the Current Retard Champion View Post
    Besides, Republicans also block abstinence and contraceptives anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seran-the Current Retard Champion View Post
    Regulating firearms to keep them out of the hands of criminals, the unhinged, etc. meets the first test of the 2nd amendment, 'well-regulated'.

    Quote Originally Posted by SHAFT View Post
    You show me a video of me typing that and Ill admit it. (This was the excuse he came up with when he was called out for a really stupid post)
    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    3 million more popular votes. I'd say the numbers speak for themselves. Gerrymandering won for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    You're going full blown retard at this point.

    Again.
    We have to make up a new word just to describe how butthurt cwolff is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    About the right amount of derp I was expecting. Thanks you three.
    See what I mean? Facts don't matter. We're dealing with religion here.

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