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    Any tips on training this bard? He'll be Melee for a good long while though I figure I need to begin considering lores and when to switch to MnE

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     Race: Elf   Profession: Bard (Post name shown as: Bard)
    Level: 24   Gender: Male   Age: 525
     
    Experience:
      Experience: 670187  Next level at: 725000 exp. 
      Exp. until next lvl: 54813
      Fame: 573163   Deeds: 8   Deaths this level: 0
      Your mind is becoming numbed.
     
    Wealth:
      Silvers:  0 coins
     
    Skills:
      Skill Name                         | Current Current
                                         |   Bonus   Ranks
      Armor Use..........................|     142      42
      Combat Maneuvers...................|      35       7
      Polearm Weapons....................|     152      52
      Multi Opponent Combat..............|      25       5
      Physical Fitness...................|     108      26
      Dodging............................|     108      26
      Magic Item Use.....................|      50      10
      Harness Power......................|     102      24
      Survival...........................|      50      10
      Perception.........................|     102      24
      Climbing...........................|      50      10
      Swimming...........................|      15       3
      First Aid..........................|      50      10
      Trading............................|      58      12
    
    Spell Lists
      Bard...............................|              25
     
    Stats:               Normal (Bonus)   ...  Enhanced (Bonus)
      Strength     (STR):    79 (14)      ...   79 (14)
      Constitution (CON):    75 (12)      ...   75 (12)
      Dexterity    (DEX):    67 (13)      ...   67 (13)
      Agility      (AGL):    77 (28)      ...   77 (28)
      Discipline   (DIS):    91 (5)       ...   91 (5)
      Aura         (AUR):    70 (15)      ...   70 (15)
      Logic        (LOG):    91 (20)      ...   91 (20)
      Intuition    (INT):    71 (10)      ...   71 (10)
      Wisdom       (WIS):    66 (8)       ...   66 (8)
      Influence    (INF):    71 (20)      ...   71 (20)

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    Generally you want to go MnE when you hit 20 Bard spells.

    For lores, grab 25 ranks of Telepathy, then 1x in Air lore, particularly if you want to use sonic gear (you do).
    Last edited by Taernath; 02-19-2018 at 12:54 AM.
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    Many ways to get the job done, but I like going for 425 and 430 as fast as possible with that setup and having mirrors available ... you are heavy on dodge witch mirrors helps .. and low on cm. switching the two would be beneficial.. imho

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    I agree with what Roiken and Taernath were saying. If I was going to cookie cut this guy, I would drop armor use to 1x, cut MoC, Trading, Survival, and First Aid. With the freed up points, I would go with what Roiken said and switch Cman and Dodging, then work towards bringing Dodge to 1x, mental mana control to 24, and Mental Lores/Air lore as much as you can spare until you get them to Taernath's suggestion. Then you can start peppering in your secondary training.

    Spellwise, at least bring Spellsongs down to 1020, maybe even 1013 depending on how much you use the other songs, and work on getting 425 as soon as you can.

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    Bards are OP(sleep/swing). By lvl 35 all my bards have 1035(swarm control) and 425 and the basics. Then play catch up. Lvl 41 now and swinging at 354 and crushing crap. There is so many things to hunt when your under 60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maviur View Post
    Bards are OP(sleep/swing). By lvl 35 all my bards have 1035(swarm control) and 425 and the basics. Then play catch up. Lvl 41 now and swinging at 354 and crushing crap. There is so many things to hunt when your under 60.
    What does a training plan / stat placement look like for a 2x spells bard? I can't imagine you have enough mana to keep your spells rolling without outside support.
    You had better pay your guild dues before you forget. You are 113 months behind.

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    Here's the closest I can get to that right now. If I drop dodge I bet he's pretty vulnerable and there'll be no room for cmans for a while.

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    At level 24:  	Ranks	X	#	PTP	MTP		24	0	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22	23	24
    Armor Use	24	(1.0X)	2	5	0																											24
    Polearm Weapons	52	(2.1X)	2	6	1																											52
    Physical Fitness	26	(1.0X)	2	4	0																											26
    Dodging	26	(1.0X)	2	6	6																											26
    Perception	15	(0.6X)	2	0	3																											15
    Harness Power	24	(1.0X)	2	0	5																											24
    Spell Research	38	(1.5X)	2	0	17																											38
        Minor Elemental	25	(1.0X)	2	0	17																											25
        Bard	13	(0.5X)																														13
    PTP							848	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	848
    MTP							1249	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1249
    Total PTP Left							104	42	84	127	170	213	256	299	342	385	429	473	517	561	605	649	693	737	781	826	871	916	961	1006	1051	104
    Total MTP Left							0	45	90	135	181	227	273	319	365	412	459	506	553	600	647	694	742	790	838	886	934	982	1030	1079	1128	0

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    Well that ended up all out of order. Here's what I can do at level 24

    Armor 24
    Polearm 52
    PF 26
    Dodge 26
    Per 15
    HP 24
    MnE 24
    Bard 13

    PTP's left 104

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    XXXX (at level 41), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
    Skill Name | Current Current
    | Bonus Ranks
    Armor Use..........................| 160 60
    Combat Maneuvers...................| 143 43
    Polearm Weapons....................| 186 86
    Physical Fitness...................| 143 43
    Harness Power......................| 143 43
    Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
    Climbing...........................| 70 15

    Spell Lists
    Minor Elemental....................| 25

    Spell Lists
    Bard...............................| 35
    Training Points: 6 Phy 0 Mnt (230 Phy converted to Mnt)

    This is where my bards is now. CMs I did not have at lvl 35 and was just 8 armor. When you don't have to train in spells its easy to catch up on others. Now im going for MIU,arcane and mana control elemental. At the end of the day I feel most bards will be the same..Just something different to get there.
    Just to be clear: I do have 2 basic accounts that help each other out with spells and healing.
    Last edited by Maviur; 02-20-2018 at 03:07 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maviur View Post
    XXXX (at level 41), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
    Skill Name | Current Current
    | Bonus Ranks
    Armor Use..........................| 160 60
    Combat Maneuvers...................| 143 43
    Polearm Weapons....................| 186 86
    Physical Fitness...................| 143 43
    Harness Power......................| 143 43
    Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
    Climbing...........................| 70 15

    Spell Lists
    Minor Elemental....................| 25

    Spell Lists
    Bard...............................| 35
    Training Points: 6 Phy 0 Mnt (230 Phy converted to Mnt)

    This is where my bards is now. CMs I did not have at lvl 35 and was just 8 armor. When you don't have to train in spells its easy to catch up on others. Now im going for MIU,arcane and mana control elemental. At the end of the day I feel most bards will be the same..Just something different to get there.
    Just to be clear: I do have 2 basic accounts that help each other out with spells and healing.
    Very curious about this build. I'm 24 right now, always hunt with a friend so really looking forward to tonis. A couple questions:

    1: how is your DS with zero ranks of dodging? Between that and low CM at 35, seems like you would be a total glass cannon?
    2: what spells can you keep up? Seems like even mirrors and Kai's would be hard, much less tonis.

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