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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    So what are you saying? That Trump and the RNC don't have the money?
    No. I never, ever said that or implied that.

    I mean, it was a genius tactic Trump used, being super rich and also not at the same time, but Trump is "the Man" everyone always talks about. Don't ever for one second forget that.
    Wut?

    Just so happens I preferred "the Man" over "the Bitch".
    Wut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    I was pointing out that Trump is one of those folks with the money. 2016 didn't change the fact that money controls politics.
    "not always the case" is a very key part of what I was saying.

    Politics have ALWAYS been controlled by people with money... it's been that way since the advent of money. That will never change.

    But an individual can climb up the ladder and become President and not actually have a ton of money himself/herself. Examples of this are:

    Lincoln
    Grant
    Jackson
    Ford
    Obama
    Truman
    Wilson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    "not always the case" is a very key part of what I was saying.

    Politics have ALWAYS been controlled by people with money... it's been that way since the advent of money. That will never change.

    But an individual can climb up the ladder and become President and not actually have a ton of money himself/herself. Examples of this are:

    Lincoln
    Grant
    Jackson
    Ford
    Obama
    Truman
    Wilson
    Yes, but you pointed out that 2016 changed that... Trump isn't a good example of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    No. I never, ever said that or implied that.



    Wut?



    Wut?
    You implied that somehow 2016 changed "asshole(s) with the money control politics". It didn't.

    Second point, Trump is both playing up his wealth and downplaying it.

    The Man is Trump, as I put earlier. The Bitch is obviously the only opponent he had in the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Yes, but you pointed out that 2016 changed that... Trump isn't a good example of that.
    Merely used Trump as an example as the one who spends the most money doesn't always win.

    Didn't use Trump as an example of how a "poor" person can become President. Obama already did that in 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    Merely used Trump as an example as the one who spends the most money doesn't always win.

    Didn't use Trump as an example of how a "poor" person can become President. Obama already did that in 2008.
    Shit, Obama had the highest expenditure in a campaign until Hillary. I imagine next election the bar will move again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    You implied that somehow 2016 changed "asshole(s) with the money control politics". It didn't.
    Read your post again. You said "So what are you saying? That Trump and the RNC don't have the money?"

    Never made that point at all.

    Second point, Trump is both playing up his wealth and downplaying it.
    I don't think he ever really downplayed it. He said he's so rich, he's not beholding to special interest groups.

    His ego would never allow him to downplay his wealth. It's as much a part of him as his hair.

    The Man is Trump, as I put earlier. The Bitch is obviously the only opponent he had in the election.
    Yea.. just not sure what that had to do with the point of the thread.

    I dislike Trump as a human being.. but he's still 10000000000003004204020420420242144221x better than Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Shit, Obama had the highest expenditure in a campaign until Hillary. I imagine next election the bar will move again.
    No doubt. 2020 will be entertaining to say the least... from both sides trying to beat Trump. I imagine he will have to fend off Republicans from getting the nomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    I think 2016 proved that is not always the case
    That's exactly why they let it happen. What a ripe opportunity to reel people back in!

    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    But an individual can climb up the ladder and become President and not actually have a ton of money himself/herself.
    Oh, it doesn't have to be the person running for the position that has the money. If someone without money gets the job, it's because the people with the money allowed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    I was pointing out that Trump is one of those folks with the money. 2016 didn't change the fact that money controls politics.
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